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Things that you can’t quite believe were the norm

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ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 09/06/2024 19:27

What’s one of those things you think in 10/20/30 years people will go “WTF why was that acceptable?”

For me - the Jeremy Kyle show. I’m so pleased it’s off air - awful poverty porn hosted by a nasty little bully and enabled by god-complex shit stirring producers. Also who wants to watch so much shouting and arguing at 9.25am!

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Yougotwhatstuckwhere · 10/06/2024 13:25

Another woman who had to endure school showers as a teenager. No escape unfortunately. Arses slapped with rolled up towels by female PE teachers.
Being told by male PE teacher I could join rugby but only if I changed shirts with boys at the end 😡

Chumming a parent to a London cancer hospital as a teen for their radiotherapy and being left in a tiny room crammed full of people smoking.
Sadly I was already smoking by then.

I truly hope the danger of allowing perverts and paedophiles unfettered access to our kids online is taken seriously and the age at which children can legally have Internet access is set in law.

Totally agree with others about plastic grass. It's abhorrent.

When the next pandemic hits, I hope enough was learnt from covid and we won't have a repeat. Covid the debacle, not the illness, fucked me up and I'm still suffering now.

ARichtGoodDram · 10/06/2024 13:28

Intriguedbythis · 10/06/2024 13:05

Where is it that they’re still allowed?

We’re Northumberland.

They are also allowed from 8 in Lanarkshire, Scotland, where my BiL lives.

Where my SIL lives in Coventry it’s either 10 or 11 to go alone.

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2024 13:33

My friends and I regularly went to the swimming baths without adults from.the age of 10. We could swim and were quite sensible. We also used to often visit the large amusement park close to home, roaming around the slot machine arcades looking for pennies. Very few folk had cars back then and we used to walk or cycle everywhere. We were all slim and healthy and obesity was virtually unheard of. We had no money to buy sweets and chocolate and the only takeaway was fish and chips or the rarely seen Chinese takeaway. No fast food outlets. Its a shame today's children won't get to experience the simple fun and freedom we have back then, late 60s/early 70s

Katypp · 10/06/2024 13:35

This is a really interesting thread, especially the pps who have highlighted things that happen now which will be looked back upon with incredulity.
I think this generation of parents - probably due to affirmation on social media - have a tendency to think they are year zero and all guidelines and advice given now is the definitive advice. Hence the constant friction between mums and their parents and ILs about trivia such as letting a child drink weak milky tea or giving them solid food when they are five months and 29 days old.
Times change and things progress, but it doesn't mean they way things were done then were dangerous, as was suggested in the recent thread about rear-facing car seats. RF may be marginally safer but it doesn't mean FF is 'dangerous'!
I also agree that people are a lot more insular and selfish now, with a lot less thought given to how an individual's behaviour impacts the wider community.
Back in my day, a new baby was cause for celebration for the whole family and everyone wanted to see it and stopped you when you were out to admire the baby.
Nowadays the new baby is a cause for friction, carping and controlling what others do, with great suspicion of anyone who wants to admire, talk to or - God forbid - touch the baby.

Needanewname42 · 10/06/2024 13:36

scalt · 10/06/2024 09:59

My feet don’t sweat a lot, so I like going sockless in trainers. In the supermarket, you’d see people doing it all the time. Many people in my year went sockless for PE as teenagers. At primary, we were made to put shoes on our bare feet to walk to the assembly hall for PE, before doing PE barefoot (and in vest and pants).

My feet aren't particularly sweaty either, normally they are freezing. But those trainers were stinking.
Might have been the warm hospitals, and adrenalin or something but they stank!

Pedallleur · 10/06/2024 13:47

CwmYoy · 10/06/2024 12:49

debunking.

The Sun, published a “Charlotte Church Countdown Clock”. It didn’t happen but the allegation that it did is an interesting commentary on how the tabloid press is regarded by those who believe themselves to be above such matters.

As background, for those that don’t know, Charlotte Church is a singer and she’s been a famous one since her childhood. In giving evidence to the Leveson Inquiry into the press she stated:

When Charlotte Church gave evidence at the Leveson inquiry into press standards in November she described her anger at a clock on the Sun newspaper’s website that counted down to her 16th birthday, marking the moment she would be over the age of consent.

The thing is, that memory is false. These things happen with memory, of course, but the newspaper, the website, The Sun, News International, did not in fact do this.

What actually happened was that a prankster set up such a site on the internet and then that various newspapers reported on this fact.

Chris Moyles was the Dj and that did happen. then we had the phone hacking of seemingly everyone and anyone. Elton john, Mrs Lawrence (mother of Stephen). no one seemed to be off limits

LittleTiger007 · 10/06/2024 13:50

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 10/06/2024 10:26

I suppose it depends what is meant by after age 2. I initially thought two was very young but if it actually means by age three then that would not have been controversial until very recently.

No, it was normal to be toilet trained by age 2 when children wore Terry neppurs. This is because they were uncomfortable and wanted out of the nappy. Children in disposables are comfortable and don’t see a need to a toilet. The modern move back towards cloth nappies means many are toilet trained before the 2nd birthday once again.

forgotmyusername1 · 10/06/2024 13:51

looking back - Jimmy Saville
now - influencers and the khardashians

Needanewname42 · 10/06/2024 13:55

Serrina · 10/06/2024 12:00

A lot of those children still wearing nappies when they go into reception have (often undiagnosed) additional needs. It amazes me how nobody seems to take this into account whenever this topic comes up.

I'm not saying that's not part of the issue. But there must always have been children starting school with undiagnosed additional needs. ASD and ADHD aren't new.
Admittedly some of the more obvious cases would have been filtered off into special needs schools. But their must always have been children going under the radar with additional needs.

girlswillbegirls · 10/06/2024 13:56

RosesAndHellebores · 09/06/2024 23:46

To fast forward 30 years I think we'll look back on open plan kitchen/sitting/dining room spaces with horror. So hard to heat and so little privacy or peace.

Oh and we'll remember the noisy/smelly petrol and diesel cars and petrol stations instead of the rollover charging pods alongside major roads.

Also the times when people drafted letters themselves rather than relying on robots/AI

Department stores will be an historical memory.

Agree with all of it.

Open plan- fully agree, it's just the most unpractical and nonsensical thing and everyone right now is still knocking their walls.
My previous house was open plan and everyone thought look amazing.
The tidying up is endless as there are no walls to put your storage furniture and you can see every single thing outside the place.
Kitchen smells everywhere. Cold and high heating bills as a result.
Open plan will be a crazy concept in a few years time.
(Our house now has all the walls, I'm so greatful!)

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 10/06/2024 13:57

TheLaughOfRustyLee · 09/06/2024 19:54

The smoking on planes, in the school staff room. A cloud of smoke would bellow out every time a teacher went in or out.

Smoking on trains in the 'smoking carriage'. We all smoked in the college canteen and at our desks at work when we were in our 20's.

Smoking in restaurants whilst people on the next table were eating their dinner!

I loved being able to smoke in pubs though

We must have all STANK (even the non-smokers)

Oh gosh, you've taken me right back. On the rare occasions I went into the staff room at school to deliver a message you couldn't see across the room because of the smoke.
Also, I had a board rubber (wooden thing) thrown across the room at me once because i was daydreaming. It hit me on the head!

Summersunseas · 10/06/2024 14:00

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/06/2024 20:11

I had a colleague who had three children by the time he and DW were early 30s. The idea was by the time they were mid 50s DC would be grown and off their hands. Seemed like a good idea to me and still does.

Agree

parkrun500club · 10/06/2024 14:01

Clueless humans keeping animals as pets.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 10/06/2024 14:01

Trixiefirecracker · 10/06/2024 11:19

I can verify too that the naked showering was a thing in our school, compulsory. We just used to run through them as quickly as possible. I was on my period a lot during that time (😜) and made my mother write a note to exempt me from games as much as possible. To the poster who said she can’t believe parents used to let their kids play out without being supervised in the 70s, we still do. Village life is often like that. The kids hang out in a gang and go off exploring. They look out for each other.

Same here with the showering, running through while the teacher held your towel and handed it to you as you came out. The showers were always freezing cold too.

LittleTiger007 · 10/06/2024 14:01

Needanewname42 · 10/06/2024 13:55

I'm not saying that's not part of the issue. But there must always have been children starting school with undiagnosed additional needs. ASD and ADHD aren't new.
Admittedly some of the more obvious cases would have been filtered off into special needs schools. But their must always have been children going under the radar with additional needs.

If a child is still in nappies when they go to school then there are additional needs and it needs to be looked at before they start school. There’s no way a teacher or ta should be changing nappies. A special care plan needs to be set up with a one on one ta provision. It’s when a parent hides the fact that their child is in nappies that’s there’s a big problem. These cases happen a lot and they simply want the school to do their job and toilet train their kid which is shockingly negligent.

parkrun500club · 10/06/2024 14:03

Trixiefirecracker · 10/06/2024 12:52

Fake grass. I do really wonder why this has not been banned. A neighbour of mine in FB has just posted a picture of her perfect plastic lawn. The before and after shots were really quite upsetting, beautiful wild garden full of flowers and trees to perfectly flat lawn, not one thing left standing.

Yes. Along with garden bonfires and noisy fireworks.

Summersunseas · 10/06/2024 14:04

Summersunseas · 10/06/2024 14:00

Agree

Plus the obvious benefits of being younger Grandparents if repeated.

BeyondMyWits · 10/06/2024 14:09

parkrun500club · 10/06/2024 14:03

Yes. Along with garden bonfires and noisy fireworks.

Fireworks... I agree. Whoever thought it was a good idea to sell explosives to the general public, and all that pollution being shot into the air.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 10/06/2024 14:12

Fireworks. So selfish. Poor, terrified wild creatures, birds and animals.

Lakeyloo · 10/06/2024 14:13

BagFullOfNoodles · 09/06/2024 19:41

My parents had an estate car in the eighties, we used to get up in the early hours they'd line the boot with duvets etc and dB and I would sleep on the drive down to a friend's caravan in Cornwall. No belts, no car seats, just laid out in the boot in a makeshift bed, while they drive and smoked

This ! (minus the smoking) We used to argue over who got to sit in the tailgate 😬

LakeTiticaca · 10/06/2024 14:13

parkrun500club · 10/06/2024 14:01

Clueless humans keeping animals as pets.

Slightly unfair here I think. Dogs or cats make great companions, especially people who live alone. Family pets teach children to be kind to animals. Most people who have a pet are far from "clueless"
I don't agree with snakes and exotic species being kept in cages in a domestic setting though

Mademetoxic · 10/06/2024 14:16

parkrun500club · 10/06/2024 14:01

Clueless humans keeping animals as pets.

Clueless humans breeding up more clueless humans!

SinnerBoy · 10/06/2024 14:19

RainbowZebraWarrior · Today 13:21

The rules at our local pool are the same. Allowed to swim unaccompanied from 8 yo. Whitley Bay, North Tyneside.

Waves told us 9, the bastards! I take her down with her mate/s and let her go now (11). I wonder if we've met....

Deathraystare · 10/06/2024 14:20

Oh God yes. Don't miss bloody showers after P.E. or smoking, anywhere. One of the offices in the hospital I used to work in, if you went in the room you had to let the blue haze settle before you could see anyone! I loathed cigarette smoke and even now if a smoker sits next to me on a bus and they recently smoked, it starts me off coughing!!!

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 10/06/2024 14:20

LittleTiger007 · 10/06/2024 13:50

No, it was normal to be toilet trained by age 2 when children wore Terry neppurs. This is because they were uncomfortable and wanted out of the nappy. Children in disposables are comfortable and don’t see a need to a toilet. The modern move back towards cloth nappies means many are toilet trained before the 2nd birthday once again.

Your interpretation of the original comment is probably right. I just know my brother was still in nappies when I was born so over two wasn’t completely unknown even in the 1960s in a family without an automatic washing machine.

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