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Things that you can’t quite believe were the norm

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ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 09/06/2024 19:27

What’s one of those things you think in 10/20/30 years people will go “WTF why was that acceptable?”

For me - the Jeremy Kyle show. I’m so pleased it’s off air - awful poverty porn hosted by a nasty little bully and enabled by god-complex shit stirring producers. Also who wants to watch so much shouting and arguing at 9.25am!

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Chewbecca · 11/06/2024 09:00

biscuiteater · 11/06/2024 08:38

Flying being so cheap considering the enormous environmental damage it does compared to other transport. I think the amount of flying will drastically reduce in the future as it will become expensive unless some alternative fuel can be found. Cars already are taxed due to emissions, I can't see the aviation industry dodging it forever.

Air travel is already taxed?

Jitterybugs · 11/06/2024 09:02

Mothership4two · 11/06/2024 08:53

My childhood GP was a chain smoker and she literally puffed away throughout the consultation in a completely smoke filled room.

My daughter is an NHS nurse and she commented recently on the plume of cigarette smoke outside the hospital entrance where patients and visitors were in a huddle smoking.

She thought I was joking when I said when I was a nurse in the early 70s patients were allowed to smoke in their beds. Also that some nurses took the chance of a fly puff behind a curtained off bed if the patient was a smoker. If they heard footsteps approaching the cigarette was left in the patient’s ash tray.

Getonwitit · 11/06/2024 09:05

protectthesmallones · 10/06/2024 23:53

That pregnant mothers gave birth without their husband and stayed in hospital for two weeks.
Babies were all taken and put in a communal nursery on the ward. You got them given to you to feed.
You were expected to rest not look after a baby!

TBF it certainly helped being able to sleep when your baby slept, no worries about cooking, cleaning, laundry or looking after your other children. Some women seen it as a holiday. We didn't love our babies any less because they weren't beside us every second of the day.

LittleTiger007 · 11/06/2024 09:07

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/06/2024 21:59

Daring to say that you can't change sex...

its in literally every cell of your dna. Set at birth and different from sexual preferences

biscuiteater · 11/06/2024 09:08

Chewbecca · 11/06/2024 09:00

Air travel is already taxed?

They just say they will plant trees, no tax like other fuel. First Google result came up as attached.

Things that you can’t quite believe were the norm
Chewbecca · 11/06/2024 09:12

Oh I see, you mean on the fuel. Well they would only pass that straight onto customers who already pay Air Passenger Duty.
I would imagine it's also about where planes buy their fuel. Passengers have (virtually) no choice to fly out of the UK but airlines could refuel elsewhere.

LittleTiger007 · 11/06/2024 09:13

OhMaria2 · 11/06/2024 00:34

How did they make that work? Mine is 2 and a half and hasn't got a clue what am I doing wrong?

Because people used to use cloth nappies. Children knew when they had ‘gone’ and you could have conversations about the need to use the loo. All kids were out of nappies by about 2 and some much sooner. Pampers started the whole ‘child led toileting’ with a dr they paid because they want to sell more nappies. Now there’s a move back to cloth nappies for eco reasons and because who wants to be changing nappies forever? It was unheard of for a child to still be in nappies age 3 before disposables and pull ups. Plus kids who have had cloth nappies never have ‘accidents’ once toilet trained. Their brains are trained from babyhood that somethings happening and they need changing. … which leads to smooth and easy toilet training

biscuiteater · 11/06/2024 09:21

Chewbecca · 11/06/2024 09:12

Oh I see, you mean on the fuel. Well they would only pass that straight onto customers who already pay Air Passenger Duty.
I would imagine it's also about where planes buy their fuel. Passengers have (virtually) no choice to fly out of the UK but airlines could refuel elsewhere.

Yes that's why I think it would get expensive to fly. At present mile per mile it's so much cheaper for air travel than other transport. The air passenger duty is a drop in the ocean in comparison. It makes no sense from an environmental perspective and I think this disparity will come under increasing scrutiny. It also favours private jets with no fuel taxation.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 11/06/2024 09:30

LittleTiger007 · 11/06/2024 09:13

Because people used to use cloth nappies. Children knew when they had ‘gone’ and you could have conversations about the need to use the loo. All kids were out of nappies by about 2 and some much sooner. Pampers started the whole ‘child led toileting’ with a dr they paid because they want to sell more nappies. Now there’s a move back to cloth nappies for eco reasons and because who wants to be changing nappies forever? It was unheard of for a child to still be in nappies age 3 before disposables and pull ups. Plus kids who have had cloth nappies never have ‘accidents’ once toilet trained. Their brains are trained from babyhood that somethings happening and they need changing. … which leads to smooth and easy toilet training

‘Never have accidents’ is clearly an exaggeration. There were certainly accidents at infant school.

BigAnne · 11/06/2024 09:31

Getonwitit · 11/06/2024 09:05

TBF it certainly helped being able to sleep when your baby slept, no worries about cooking, cleaning, laundry or looking after your other children. Some women seen it as a holiday. We didn't love our babies any less because they weren't beside us every second of the day.

I was in hospital for 10 days with 1st and 2nd. By the time I went home I was rested and good to go. My 2 daughters were home almost immediately and were like washed out rags for weeks. I think it also helped that I gave birth at 27 and 29.

SinnerBoy · 11/06/2024 09:35

Petrol and diesel are 65% tax in the UK, including fuel duty and VAT. Just think how much more flights would cost, if the fuel was taxed! It's tax free worldwide, because of an international agreement after the Second World War.

Portakalkedi · 11/06/2024 09:36

Hopefully in the near future people will be appalled that -

  • so many young women wanted to look like identical trashy plastic sex dolls
  • people had dogs in their homes and treated them as if they were human
  • that lots of young people (boys?) carried knives around
  • that children had unrestricted access to the internet
  • that Internet porn was so openly available
  • that people had elective surgery to make them appear younger
-t hat many people did not know how to prepare and eat real food .... I'm sure there's much more
Helengreggregson · 11/06/2024 09:40

Getonwitit · 11/06/2024 09:05

TBF it certainly helped being able to sleep when your baby slept, no worries about cooking, cleaning, laundry or looking after your other children. Some women seen it as a holiday. We didn't love our babies any less because they weren't beside us every second of the day.

i really wish I had been offered even a couple of hours rest when I was in hospital after having dc because I got no sleep in labour and no sleep after.id been awake for about 2 days when I had dc and he was handed to me and my husband then had to leave immediately because of Covid. Was soooo wrecked.

Mrsjayy · 11/06/2024 09:44

Getonwitit · 11/06/2024 09:05

TBF it certainly helped being able to sleep when your baby slept, no worries about cooking, cleaning, laundry or looking after your other children. Some women seen it as a holiday. We didn't love our babies any less because they weren't beside us every second of the day.

This although my dh was with me and I was only in a 5 days but having the ward auxiliary wheel the little cot away so I could have a rest was lovely and not at all harmful she was brought back when I was needed.

Willmafrockfit · 11/06/2024 09:46

BigAnne · 11/06/2024 09:31

I was in hospital for 10 days with 1st and 2nd. By the time I went home I was rested and good to go. My 2 daughters were home almost immediately and were like washed out rags for weeks. I think it also helped that I gave birth at 27 and 29.

i bet you have rose tinted glasses

Mrsjayy · 11/06/2024 09:48

Willmafrockfit · 11/06/2024 09:46

i bet you have rose tinted glasses

I bet she doesn't !.

BigAnne · 11/06/2024 09:48

Willmafrockfit · 11/06/2024 09:46

i bet you have rose tinted glasses

No, only stating facts.

LittleTiger007 · 11/06/2024 09:49

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 11/06/2024 09:30

‘Never have accidents’ is clearly an exaggeration. There were certainly accidents at infant school.

For sure I’ve heard of that anecdotally but amongst my siblings and my children there was never an accident with cloth nappy training. Also as a teacher I see the difference.
I should have worded it as ‘rare’

Jitterybugs · 11/06/2024 09:56

My 2 babies were born in hospital in the late 70s. The ward routine was to remove the bottle fed babies and the staff fed them overnight in the nursery. The breast fed babies were left with the mothers. I was breastfeeding and in a 4 bedded room with 3 bottle feeders. I wasn’t popular at night with them and received lots of tutting and FFS from all corners. 2 nights was more than enough and I couldn’t wait to get home.

Scorchio84 · 11/06/2024 09:57

CuteOrangeElephant · 10/06/2024 09:56

My mother once sent me to the supermarket when I had just turned 4.
She rang ahead with her order, gave me the money in a little pouch and off I went on my little trike.

This was the 90s, she still sees nothing wrong with it as in her words 'I had no choice'.

Wait what?? & it somehow makes it worse that you went on your Trike 😆My son just turned 7 & we live so close to a massive Tescos & even now I couldn't imagine letting him out the gate... I don't think he'd even know what to do? & that is not a disparaging comment about Tadhg but it's just not done anymore

I remember going to the shops when I was around his age or thereabouts but one path, no crossing roads so it was definitely different, it really was a different time 😄

GoodHeavens99 · 11/06/2024 09:58

Jitterybugs · 11/06/2024 09:56

My 2 babies were born in hospital in the late 70s. The ward routine was to remove the bottle fed babies and the staff fed them overnight in the nursery. The breast fed babies were left with the mothers. I was breastfeeding and in a 4 bedded room with 3 bottle feeders. I wasn’t popular at night with them and received lots of tutting and FFS from all corners. 2 nights was more than enough and I couldn’t wait to get home.

Tutting because you were breastfeeding?

Like they didn't approve of it, per se?

oakleaffy · 11/06/2024 09:58

LittleTiger007 · 11/06/2024 09:13

Because people used to use cloth nappies. Children knew when they had ‘gone’ and you could have conversations about the need to use the loo. All kids were out of nappies by about 2 and some much sooner. Pampers started the whole ‘child led toileting’ with a dr they paid because they want to sell more nappies. Now there’s a move back to cloth nappies for eco reasons and because who wants to be changing nappies forever? It was unheard of for a child to still be in nappies age 3 before disposables and pull ups. Plus kids who have had cloth nappies never have ‘accidents’ once toilet trained. Their brains are trained from babyhood that somethings happening and they need changing. … which leads to smooth and easy toilet training

Disposable nappy makers are now making “Pull ups”
( Surely pull downs would be better for potty training?)

Disposable nappies they say will take more than 200 yrs to rot down in landfill-

A depressing thought.

I did use Pampers as didn’t have a garden when son was a baby, ( to dry fabric nappies) But he was easy to potty train.
( as were his same age friends- they copied each other sitting on potty.

I looked after twins for a neighbour when they were being potty trained
One did a poo in potty- I went to collect the potty to empty it, but a small dog had got there first!🤢

I had no idea before then, that dogs ate baby poo!

Sweden99 · 11/06/2024 09:58

It occurs to me that I am in Scandinavia, which has attitudes about 15 years ahead of the UK. Speaking with young people, it might be it predicts how they will see things and look back on boomers and Gen X.
They already despair of the drinking.
I think some of the attitudes to relationships might distress many feminists, with women concerned to take care of the emotions of their boyfriends. It is not that they men are being head of the household, but emotional concern in a way that would have seemed ridiculous to Gen X.

Jitterybugs · 11/06/2024 10:01

GoodHeavens99 · 11/06/2024 09:58

Tutting because you were breastfeeding?

Like they didn't approve of it, per se?

I think it was because their babies were removed from the room overnight for the staff to feed and let them sleep. But my baby was by my bedside and woke several times overnight for a feed and woke them as well.

oakleaffy · 11/06/2024 10:01

GoodHeavens99 · 11/06/2024 09:58

Tutting because you were breastfeeding?

Like they didn't approve of it, per se?

Probably because the breast fed baby was disturbing the bottle fed mother’s sleep
( Assuming bottle fed ones were in a nursery overnight)
edit: I see poster already replied!

Well done BF mum!

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