Things that you can’t quite believe were the norm

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What’s one of those things you think in 10/20/30 years people will go “WTF why was that acceptable?”

For me - the Jeremy Kyle show. I’m so pleased it’s off air - awful poverty porn hosted by a nasty little bully and enabled by god-complex shit stirring producers. Also who wants to watch so much shouting and arguing at 9.25am!

Candystripe sheets! Made of 'flannelette' brushed cotton- Pure white cotton sheets were sent to a laundry- and were starched , but felt cold to the touch.
Candysripe flannels could be sent to the laundrette.
I LOVED the laundrette! So cozy going with mum and reading the comics and then later, the problem pages in the women's magazines.
There were always magazines in the laundrette.

Something I think is not acceptable but happens.

I'm fairly near a prison, run by G4S. If you go to the pub at lunchtime you will see people in G4S uniform eating and drinking alcohol before going back to work.

We still do this in less developed countries.
Cars are a lot safer in the UK nowadays - they need to be with so much traffic and everyone driving so fast. In many countries, people drive a lot slower as the cars are full of many unrestrained people, close to falling apart (no MOT requirements) with pedestrians wandering over the roads. Oh and the road surfaces tend to be less, erm... consistent.

Now some just let them play unsupervised on the internet. A predators dream!

I hope we look back in horror at screen time and unsupervised access to the internet for children and young people.

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titchy · Yesterday 19:40

Acceptable racism in sitcoms - Alf Garnett

I agree in general, but Warren Mitchell set his character up to show the inanity of racism and other bigotry.

It was totally okay to wander wherever,we rarely had our parents with us and walked to parks alone,friends houses and shops.Looking back we were just lucky nothing happened to us,I was about 6 and on parks with friends and no parents.It was the way things were done.

i was in high school 90-95 and communal showers were a thing for us. We ran round them in a towel and got our legs wet. Unless a teacher was about….

Yes by then it had been identified as racist. My grandad wasn’t racist - he just liked the music.

I remember this in Year 5 I was very developed for my age and I would get laughed at.

Oh I smoked from 15 till I was in my 40s. They were so easy to buy .

I was brought up in 80s South Africa. Hard to believe I literally wasn’t allowed to have a Black friend or share a park bench with a Black person.
School discipline was harsh there. It was normal to be struck on the hand with a ruler for the tiniest reason. The whole class would be punished in this way almost weekly.
In PE, our teacher would check we had the right uniform by making us lift our skirts so she (or he!) could check we had the right colour knickers. Insane.

yet its now we have so much anxiety, school avoidance and mental health problems in children - people will say the health problems were ignored then, they were but it’s not going well now.

fish and chips wrapped up in old newspapers

Far more a predator's dream than kids being out of their parents' sight.

The trouble was he got the best lines. Funny and quotable racism isn’t very helpful - or so I’m told. I don’t actually remember the programme.

Oh wow!
Do you remember though that you could snap the plastic tabs off, to prevent this?

Section 28, despite so many people right now wanting similar to be brought back.
Marriage only being allowed for straights.
Parenting only being allowed for straights.
Calling a shop run by a non-white person the P*ki shop, and racism in general.

-Page 3 - I remember attending a debate about it at my daughter's school in 2014. They were as young as -16 and my daughter was 15 then!!!The woman running the debate was my daughter's deputy head who was the first woman to become a trader on the Liffe floor and had been married to a premier league footballer, so had a good story to tell! Thankfully it stopped in 2015. Also Page 7 fella - I knew a man who did that though!
-Smoking on the train, tube, on buses, planes etc - seems crazy now. I smoked in my office for years and also remember the cloud of smoke coming out of the school staff room. Also smoked on the plane to/from London-Aus in 89/90.
-Boozy work lunchtimes - I worked in the city and it was the norm in the late 80s/ early 90s. I used to run to the pub to deliver phone messages to my boss who spent most afternoons there.
-Buses that we used to run and jump on.... and off... in London - dangerous

• sexual abuse being considered normal in the workplace. Suffered it myself as a young 20 something,working in the City for dirty older men and having to process their expenses with £100s being spent in 'gentlemen's clubs'
• Covid rules. I broke them -no one was going to stop me seeing my family and close friends. I jabbed up and so did they. We all survived but I had one friend very sadly die at 43 but he hadn't been vaccinated.
• agree with Jeremy Kyle - vile programme
• kids playing out until the street lights went on (with no means of comm) - I allowed my kids as much freedom as I safely could but we were feral!
• drink driving was acceptable. No seatbelts either. Bonkers!
• women having to stay in hospital for at least a week after childbirth for no reason - my mum had my sister in hospital in 1969 so opted to have me at home in 71. Although now they get you out the door often before you and baby are ready, I was out 4hrs after my son was born.
• corporate punishment in schools. So many of my male friends got the cane, slipper etc (especially at catholic schools). I went to a normal state all girls school so don't know if that was different as we didn't have that, thankfully!
• buying fags by the single when you're 13!
• being let in pubs at 14 and London clubs at 15 (yes I did both frequently)
• gay people not having equal rights. I'm 53 and have had gay friends since I was 14. They endured so much negativity, it was awful. Was great to see times changing. Thankfully two of my best friends are now happily married to their loving same-sex partners and my young adult kids think nothing of people being attracted to the opposite sex.
• not being able to play football because you're a girl (I hated hockey and netball but think I would have enjoyed football and glad my daughter had the opportunity to play)
• blatant racism/sexism on TV being acceptable - beyond words

Going to the circus with performing animals. Or my grandad taking us to the dolphinarium. It wouldn't happen today. Thing is, he was a vegetarian and animal lover so it wasn't seen as cruel.

Going on holiday during school term. Sometimes even teachers did it.

Overcrowding cars

That’s rich if you don’t remember it.

The intelligent amongst us knew it was a sit com written to highlight a working class man who was both racist and right wing.
Alf Garnett was just a working class Nigel Farage imo. And people are still supporting him.

yes and I know one of the girls who they did a countdown for, her mother was well known in our town and not for good reasons

My dm was given speed in the late 60’s for depression.
She said she could clean the whole house in a morning after taking one. 😂

I live in Leicester and had the bullshit farce of the Leicester lockdown. Non essential retail and services literally opened for 3 days and were closed for an extra 5 weeks.

Other areas had higher cases per 100k, did they go into local lockdowns? No.

Still don’t know why hairdressers were closed because if both hairdresser and customer were masked up, no risk. Plus having hair cut is a boost for MH. Plus medical staff having to fully dress in PPE, having their hair cut would make wearing PPE on/around head more comfortable.

I find it disgusting that in early 2000’s and earlier than that girls in school had to have naked showers after PE lesson . No privacy whatsoever , nice way to knock someone’s confidence down , NOT, forcing a girl to do something she would never willingly do if given a choice ! Sounds like a prison . And most likely a teacher watching the girls have the shower too ! Sounds very pervy in my eyes !

We had to do this at my girls' school in the 70s. It wasn't fun.
BUT I also find it pretty nasty that at the school where i work the girls don't shower at all!