What’s a reasonable time to knock on their door?

[MinnieMountain]

We’re staying in a holiday let. It’s a middle terrace with a right of way over next door’s garden.

I’ve just noticed that they have blocked our gate with bicycles. We need to use it to put the bins back.

What’s a reasonable time to knock on their door to ask them to move them? I suspect it’s an attempt to stop us using it as they were in when we came that way yesterday.

OMG the replies on here are off the scale! 😂
Glad it's sorted OP.

I think the RoW falls under just how different people think about these things. Although a right of way is just that there will be people who will only use as necessary just to be considerate and then those who use it what it’s for and they are not being inconsiderate, just acting as they are allowed to.

pretty much like people on planes who recline their seat, yes the plane allows you to do this but is it inconsiderate to the person sitting behind you?

The fact that she's a solicitor is relevant because she wants to pass through the garden in a 'it's legal so I will' kind of way.

Why can't the 'quiet enjoyment' just be because you're being nice and respectful and pleasant and yes, neighbourly. You don't have to keep intruding on someone's holiday just because 'it's legal'.

It's nothing to do with the law, it's about being a nice person. And OP is choosing not to be.

Even her husband was still asleep and she wasn't waking him for advice, but was quiet happy to wake the neighbours. Says it all!

I have a right of way across my back garden and it is bot just for bins. It is for my neighbour to access their garden / backdoor at any time they want for any reason they want. Anyone visiting or working for my neighbour can also use it. This includes her window cleaner, her oil delivery guy, her friends... They are allowed to pass along the right of way but not stop on it and I am not permitted to block it. They don't have to ask my permission but they are expected to close the gate (and I keep my dog from bugging folks using the right of way!)

These are holiday rentals. OP is there for half-term, she doesn't live there and neither do the neighbours. What on earth is the point of getting all uppity and officious and 'I'm a solicitor' about it when OP will be gone next week and so will the family who have inadvertently caused an obstruction with the terrible offence of leaving their bikes somewhere they thought they were entitled to do so?

It's obvious from reading this thread that very few of you are terrace dwellers 😆

I live in a terraced house. I do not share access with my neighbours thank goodness as they would totally take advantage 'because it's legal'

Why you bothered if it's only a holiday let 🙄

My house has a pavement outside. It’s a bit annoying when people walk past in the evening and cause shadows in my living room that wind up the dog. But the general public don’t need to cross the road or be in any way considerate of my property when they walk past as they have a right of way over the public pavement outside my house.

If that ROW was instead over my land, the position would be EXACTLY THE SAME. I don’t have to expect anyone to be considerate in any way provided they’re solely using the access path to get to their property. It’s their absolute right to do so, for bins, sandy shoes or just because it’s a nicer door to use than the front door.

If someone walking across your property to get to theirs via a ROW ruins your holiday then you need to find a more secluded property to holiday in.

I can’t believe the attacks on the OP here for using a path she has a right to use, twice!

Exactly- her own husband is asleep but she’s so desperate to go knocking on the poor neighbours door because- god forbid - those bins stay out a moment after 9am!

No @BusyCM , I need to and I know I can. I (foolishly it seems) mentioned my profession in order to make that clear.

Where the heck did I say I wanted to wake the neighbours up at 6am?!

Anyone would think I had posted in AIBU not in Chat.

Not quite the point but are you putting the bins out as if you were a resident?

Thought businesses aren't suppose to use residential council services.

I don't know if @BusyCM needs a coffee, a vodka or some HRT but I'd suggest all 3

I didn't say you did want to wake them at 6am??

For being a decent neighbour and not wishing to bother someone because I have sandy shoes?

I said above, the bins is understandable, they can't be brought through the house.

But using the access to make a point 'because I can' seems lacking in kindness towards another family also trying to enjoy a peaceful holiday.

No need to imply I need medicating just because I think OP is being unneighbourly.

My end terrace has shared RoW with 2 neighbours, both use as their main entrance/exit at all times.
Annoying but it is what it is.
I think 9am is reasonable to knock on if you haven't heard them before- even though i lie in longer I would say it's a reasonable time.
I also think getting bins off the pavement ASAP is a neighbourly thing to do so pedestrians (including those with pushchairs/wheelchairs) can use the pavements.
Glad it all got sorted.

Are you programmed to post the same question every 3 - 4 hours?

Every so often, a thread with a perfectly reasonable query in the OP takes wings, bourne aloft by the self-righteous hot air of posters who can’t step out of their box and see another person’s pov.
<happy sigh>

Mountain by name, mountain by nature

I used to live in a house with a ROW over next door. Never in my life did I use it because I had sandy shoes - it was for bins and other large one-off items that had to go round the back. You sound awful and very inconsiderate.

Exactly this, utterly bizarre. Loads of comments where people clearly can’t read or are just plain mean.

Love your username btw :)

I know @Saucery . It’s amazing how this thread has taken off 😁

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

Yes you know the law, but you don’t seem to be a people person!

the one plus - your neighbours at home are also getting a holiday🫣

If I was on holiday and got knocked up at 9am to move my bikes I wouldn’t be happy…I’m not a morning person, imo 10am is more reasonable

Did you mean to be so rude @Bellyblueboy ? Just because you can be nasty to strangers on the internet, doesn’t mean you should be.

If it's an access route then it shouldn't be blocked at all. They'll get more quiet enjoyment if they don't block the way!