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What’s a reasonable time to knock on their door?

92 replies

MinnieMountain · 28/05/2024 06:27

We’re staying in a holiday let. It’s a middle terrace with a right of way over next door’s garden.

I’ve just noticed that they have blocked our gate with bicycles. We need to use it to put the bins back.

What’s a reasonable time to knock on their door to ask them to move them? I suspect it’s an attempt to stop us using it as they were in when we came that way yesterday.

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NikNak321 · 29/05/2024 07:39

Lemevoir · 28/05/2024 09:31

Can you not move the bikes out of the way yourself, bring the bins in, and then put the bikes back where they were? Why do you need to knock on the their door at all? And if they "catch" you moving the bikes, surely it'll be obvious why you're doing it when you start to bring the bins in. And aren't the neighbours' bins also on the pavement??

Yeah don't do this... terrible advice. Cheap bikes cost ££....but if they are into bikes they can cost the price of a 2nd hand car. Just knock on the door at a reasonable hr... problem solved 👍

Begsthequestion · 29/05/2024 07:47

My god the state of this thread!

Toooldtopretend · 29/05/2024 08:06

BusyCM · 28/05/2024 06:47

It will be for access, for things like bins that can't come through the front door. Not people traipsing past with sandy shoes.... you're not giving them quiet enjoyment of their holiday let.

Our house allows next door to walk through to get to their garden. It’s in the deeds and for access, not just bins.

Notamum12345577 · 29/05/2024 08:23

BusyCM · 28/05/2024 06:47

It will be for access, for things like bins that can't come through the front door. Not people traipsing past with sandy shoes.... you're not giving them quiet enjoyment of their holiday let.

There is a right of access. So they can use it for whatever reason they want or need to get to the back door.

MinnieMountain · 29/05/2024 08:34

It’s alright people, I’ve already set @BusyCM straight 😁

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BusyCM · 29/05/2024 08:37

MinnieMountain · 29/05/2024 08:34

It’s alright people, I’ve already set @BusyCM straight 😁

That you intend to act as unneighbourly as you like because you're a solicitor?

Yes, yes you have.

MinnieMountain · 29/05/2024 08:39

No, that I intend to reasonably use the right of way for more than just bins if necessary because unlike some people who blether on about “quiet enjoyment”, I actually know the law.

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SuzySizzle · 29/05/2024 08:39

What crazy replies from people. Glad it's sorted OP! I'd carry on using the ROW without worrying about it.

Delatron · 29/05/2024 08:55

It’s not really about the right of way issue. It’s the banging on someone’s door on their holiday at 9am (you wanted to knock at that time) about brining some bins back in. What’s the urgency about the bins? Just enjoy your holiday and let them enjoy theirs.

MinnieMountain · 29/05/2024 09:13

@Delatron the bins were getting in the way on the pavement. And I asked advice on a suitable time as DH wasn’t up.

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greengreyblue · 29/05/2024 09:22

Wow some horrible comments on this thread. Obviously some solicitor hate . Didn’t know they were so unpopular. OP your request sounded perfectly reasonable. Glad you got it sorted.

PinkQuail · 29/05/2024 10:01

Why you even bothered if it's only a holiday let 🙄

DullFanFiction · 29/05/2024 10:09

BusyCM · 28/05/2024 07:17

Ah that explains why you've been acting as you have! Spoiling their holiday out of principle, nice!

Spoiling theur hols?

With a once a day walk on a SHARED pathway? Come on.
When they rented the place, they knew that was the situation. Incl when their NDN will need to bring the bin back.

Rather, I suspect they have decided to not take any notice of the right of use and leave the bikes where it suits them.

Abeona · 29/05/2024 10:20

MinnieMountain · 28/05/2024 07:08

@BusyCM I’m a residential property solicitor. I’ll bet my practicing certificate on it being a right of way on foot at all times and for all purposes. I don’t think once a day when we come back is excessive. And we don’t have a contract of any sort with next door, so “quiet enjoyment” is bollocks.

Bins have been collected. I need to bring them back in so they don’t block the pavement.

Poor fellow holidaymakers...

Mostlyoblivious · 29/05/2024 10:24

Obvs all sorted now but I’d say 9ish unless you see movement earlier

LadyAsnowt · 29/05/2024 10:29

Funny how everyone seems to despise a solicitor until they want a bit of free advice (disclaimer: I am not, and never have been, a lawyer of any kind).

Delatron · 29/05/2024 10:32

MinnieMountain · 29/05/2024 09:13

@Delatron the bins were getting in the way on the pavement. And I asked advice on a suitable time as DH wasn’t up.

Yes I’m sure people weren’t up as they were on holiday. I doubt there were hoards of holidaymakers trying to get past at 9am. You just wanted to knock and wake them up. As you were annoyed they’d blocked you in with bikes. It’s all a bit tit for tat.

Shan5474 · 29/05/2024 10:41

Glad I read the reply up thread because if this were me I also would’ve wheeled their bikes out and back once I’d moved the bins thinking I’d made things better by not disturbing them 😳🙈. Although I’m guessing there’s a locked gate and it’s not a public right of way or the potentially expensive bikes would be chained up out of sight

shearwater2 · 29/05/2024 10:46

I'd just move their bikes round the back and put a polite note on not to leave them in your access route.

Buffypaws · 29/05/2024 11:17

I'm almost crying 😂at the batshit responses on this thread.

This is why Tattle makes fun of us.

WhenTheMoonShines · 29/05/2024 11:38

@LadyAsnowt was just thinking that too! (Also not a solicitor)

godmum56 · 29/05/2024 11:39

shearwater2 · 29/05/2024 10:46

I'd just move their bikes round the back and put a polite note on not to leave them in your access route.

they were padlocked.

MinnieMountain · 29/05/2024 11:40

@Delatron ever heard of actual residents? Or people getting up at different times when on holiday? Good grief.

Some of the replies are making me glad I no longer have clients. I didn’t realise all solicitors are evil 😁

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Abeona · 29/05/2024 11:40

LadyAsnowt · 29/05/2024 10:29

Funny how everyone seems to despise a solicitor until they want a bit of free advice (disclaimer: I am not, and never have been, a lawyer of any kind).

I certainly do know solicitors and barristers too, I'll have you know, and don't despise most of them — but then most of them are reasonable people and not the 'I'm a lawyer, I know my rights' variety. Particularly not when on holiday, and not regarding another holiday home next door with guests who can't be expected to know the access rights of the place they're renting, nor OP's sandy shoes preferences or bin sensitivity. OP may be charm personified in real life, but in this thread seems officious and looking for a fight IMO.

Movinghouseatlast · 29/05/2024 11:44

BusyCM · 29/05/2024 08:37

That you intend to act as unneighbourly as you like because you're a solicitor?

Yes, yes you have.

It's not unneighbourly, it's how rights of access work.

She is saying she is a solicitor to point out she understands the law around this, not to ask for special treatment.

You don't understand tge law. You have got the law wrong.

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