Sensible DH saw something spooky

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Recently we went to visit an old jail.
In the reception area DH was laughing and talking to the man on the desk.
All good advised to go through the door into an annex and read lots of information to help us understand and make the most of the tour. There was only us in that part.
Go through the door into the annex which was empty and DH started to feel down.
Read the info and started to the next room DH started to get upset.
After 3 more rooms we had to leave as DH was crying.

Outside the man on the desk told us that a séance had been performed 3 nights before. DH wouldn't say much.
It was nearly 5 hours later DH felt comfortable to say that there was a man following us which made him worried. The way he described the man was that he was dressed in tatty clothes and had something around his legs. He said he was getting upset because of the sight of this poor man.
There is a lot more but he said that he couldn't tell me anymore as he thinks I'd not believe him.

DH is sensible, not prone to exaggerate and always says it is rubbish people seeing things.

"Yes I find it so depressing that so many people have such a limited mindset."

It is not having "a limited mindset" to want to think about the explanations for people's experiences. Many of them have completely mundane explanations- surely we need to eliminate all of those to leave any truly inexplicable things? When I was a young woman it was orbs and ghost photos-we now know they were perfectly normal non paranormal phenomena. Why would we not want to do the same with other things?

Paranormal just means there is currently no scientific explanation.

Just like “unidentified flying object” doesn’t mean an alien craft.

"Just like “unidentified flying object” doesn’t mean an alien craft."

Exactly.

It's probably the Ayatollah of Iran Ali Khomenei leaving Tehran on his Magic Carpet, before the Israelis nuke it.

I’d probably find the woo-merchants’ credulousness and determination to discount coincidence, error, superstition, sleepiness and wishful thinking etc depressing, if it weren’t frequently so funny.

Great answer. I'm part of a group that has managed to debunk so many incidents and give so many rational explanations to people in private residences. If anyone needs convincing that it's all in the mind, do people really believe that they have had an evil presence in their house that has later been utterly banished back to the underworld by someone waving bits of sage around or saying a prayer?

He came to see your aunt before he moved on, that's lovely. I think the dead neighbour was coming home to see his family. This has made me think of another incident. A few hours after my mum passed away in the hospital, I went home and made a cup of tea. My daughter and I watched my mobile phone slide from one end to the other across the kitchen table, and fall to the floor. We both said it was my mum.

Drink, drugs or a medical condition.

We stayed the night in a converted old jail once and the bathroom door locked from inside when neither of us were in there...

Ahh I'm a local, that'll be William Griffith who your DH saw, OP.

Sometimes there is no rational explanation.

I remember coming home from university in the 80’s & saying to my mum I’ve just passed A’s house (my school friend’s) & seen Uncle X in the garden & nice to see he’s up and about. My mum said you can’t have done he died yesterday morning! I still remember to this day and it’s over 40 years ago.

I had driven back so no drinking and in time for a family do at 3pm so not late and I’d had a goodnight sleep night before. I saw what I saw. I’d love a rational explanation. He was adopted so no brother or other male relatives that I could have mistaken him for.

*The only medical conditions I know of that cause hallucinations are schizophrenia (although that produces auditory hallucinations rather than visual) very high fever and hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the brain).

If there are more I'd be interested to know what they are.

Temporal lobe epilepsy, dementia, anxiety, Traumatic brain injuries, brain tumours, migraines and Charles Bonnet Syndrome to name but a few of the many possibilities.

But even people who don’t have any of these can see things that aren’t there occasionally. Our brains try to fill in gaps in our blind spot and are prone to blips.

@QueensOfTheVolksAge thank you I'll Google him.

I'm sure there is more to life and death than we know.

We did a tour in Edinburgh the underground vaults etc in a large group and never expected to see or hear anything spooky. The only place that scared us was covenanters jail in Kirkyard cemetery. We were laughing when the guide stood outside a crypt and said he would not set foot in while the group did. The guide had just before showed us around the underground vaults that have a horrible history. We thought it was an act to spook us but we heard whispering in our ear some people report scratches in the same place.

Funnily enough it was in the Covenanter's Prison in Greyfriar's Kirkyard.

I would fully believe he experienced what he did. Like another poster said, there is so much we don't know about the world and because 'science' can't explain it fully right now, then it doesn't exist.
I completely disagree and find the whole thing fascinating With time, hopefully more will be uncovered. All I can imagine, is that somehow the man resonated with your husband on some level, and he was empathically feeling his feelings.
I'd be interested on what kind of dreams or other experiences your husband has had during his life.

My DS said something similar about not being able to tell me something when he was in the moment of it happening, he was 18 and not into paranormal or anything, but on the last day when we were viewing Universities, something happened that shook us both so much we left the place in Cornwall early, I kept trying to ask my DS about it and he said, "I dont want to talk about it", then when we drove over the bridge into Devon, he said he had been seeing and hearing things all week. I feel he felt unsafe mentioning it at the time but could do so when away from the situation. I have no idea what it was but it freaked him out and then me too when the kitchen appeared to have been ransacked in the middle of the night whilst we were sleeping tipped him over the edge.

I do agree with getting a health check though, and I am not being disbelieving but I used to hear voices shouting at me so loud they would wake me from my sleep, it turned out to be an audible hallucination caused by the medication I was on and then once when I was on a milk shake replacement diet and had lost loads of weight (too much) I used to see things too, again it was some sort of hallucination from stress. So do get it checked out.

Now DH and I went to visit a wedding venue a few years back. I was really looking forward to it. Online and in the brochure we had it looked stunning. Beautiful property with gorgeous gardens.

We got there and looked round outside first and it was perfect. I was imagining our wedding photos being taken around the grounds and was getting quite excited about it.

Then we walked into the house and the same feeling of dread and fear came over me. Even my Mum asked me if I was OK because I'd suddenly gone quiet and pale. We completed the tour and as we left DH said to me "I really like that place, don't you?" to which I had to say "No. Not a chance in hell I'm getting married there. I couldn't wait to get out of the place."

Like OP's DH I don't believe in ghosts, or supernatural stuff (the amount of people that have come before us, if ghosts were real they'd be absolutely everywhere), but there was just something about the place that made me feel so dreadfully anxious and emotional when I was inside it. Never felt like it before or since but I can understand how OP's DH felt.

I would quite like someone to explain this away:

I found a 'medium', she was several miles away from my home, and had advertised in the local paper (no internet in those days).

Feeling quite lost and sad, I decided to visit. She did not ask my name, at the time of booking, or at my arrival. You will just have to take my word for it that there was no way she knew me, or of me. I was just the 6 o' clock appt.
I didn't tell anyone I was going.

Now I can quite believe that she could see the unhappiness in my face, and could attribute it to a loss or perhaps a failed romance, she could easily guess that I was looking for 'something'.
Her first words were (and I cannot forget them) 'Oh my dear, you are a widow.'
I was, and it certainly wasn't the first thing you would guess faced with a 21 year old who looked like a teen.
My husband's death was not high profile, not reported anywhere. It was in the hatches matches and dispatches in the local paper, but only to note the funeral arrangements, and she did not have my name, anyway.
How could she know?

Doctors wouldn't know anything about him if he is healthy person. Medium type of people can tell and can see things, which cannot be seen by Doctors or human eyes can see. Believe or not there are more spirits in world than human. They can be seen by some special people and children more likely. Because children are more innocent minded.

@gardenmusic I can't say how she knew. Maybe you were looking exhausted and sad and you were twisting your wedding ring and consulting a medium so it was a strong possibility?

My dog nodded yes to me once when I asked if he wanted to go outside.

"Wailing"😂

Children are credulous, highly imaginative, inexperienced, and still figuring out the difference between reality and fantasy. So it’s easy to forgive the moments when they turn a dressing gown on the back of the door into a terrifying ghost, or refuse to go upstairs at night because they saw a scary man on the landing.

Adults have no such excuse.

I thought she was ‘screaming’ at the unbearable beauty of the ceiling…?

@gardenmusic, I’m sorry for your loss. It’s very usual for women to seek out ‘mediums’ after a traumatic bereavement, so being widowed was worth a guess for a shell-shocked, sad woman, even a very young one, especially if wearing a wedding ring — if it hadn’t hit, she’d have gone elsewhere with the guesswork. If she advertised in the local paper and got her business from that, you may be sure that she read the death notices in the same paper. The age of the deceased is usually given, and the existence of a widow or widower — assuming your husband was also young, it will have stood out as unusual, and been worth remembering.

So I’ve recently been having hallucinations, visual, and I KNOW they aren’t real. So they completely offend me because how dare something that isn’t true come into my field of vision.
And if I am honest they are scary. I have been to two neurologists and three psychiatrists and demanded they tell me if I was mad or experiencing seizures. I am not. The next things I have to check is sleep apnea and two (pardon me, these two are scribbled in doctors handwriting) hypnogogic (?) and hypnopompic. And if I don’t respond to meds then it’s just a thing, possibly brought on by stress. You can have hallucinations without being mentally ill because I argued with them that no you can’t, because these people I see in my room trying to kill me are not really there. Therefore I am mentally ill. And then they point out that I know they are hallucinations. And I say yes, so how do we switch them off.

it’s distressing and my first reaction is to scream my head off when I turn it and see a completely detailed person standing in the corner or standing on the bed looking down at me. And you know what’s funny? They are all different but all redheads. And there aren’t any redheads in my country.

This is basically just a whinge because I do not approve of imaginary people but just to say it’s not always epilepsy or psychosis. Next stop, sleep apnea study.