Sensible DH saw something spooky

[Listengold]

Recently we went to visit an old jail.
In the reception area DH was laughing and talking to the man on the desk.
All good advised to go through the door into an annex and read lots of information to help us understand and make the most of the tour. There was only us in that part.
Go through the door into the annex which was empty and DH started to feel down.
Read the info and started to the next room DH started to get upset.
After 3 more rooms we had to leave as DH was crying.

Outside the man on the desk told us that a séance had been performed 3 nights before. DH wouldn't say much.
It was nearly 5 hours later DH felt comfortable to say that there was a man following us which made him worried. The way he described the man was that he was dressed in tatty clothes and had something around his legs. He said he was getting upset because of the sight of this poor man.
There is a lot more but he said that he couldn't tell me anymore as he thinks I'd not believe him.

DH is sensible, not prone to exaggerate and always says it is rubbish people seeing things.

I have a couple of very sensible relatives/friends who have seen 'ghosts'.

We don't know everything and I think it's more stupid to write such things off than it is to be open-minded.

I have a couple of very sensible relatives/friends who have seen 'ghosts'.

No you don't.

You already know everything. Why do you ask?

Think, @AliceOlive. This really isn't difficult. Do you think that the fact that numerous theology departments exist in universities worldwide proves the existence of a deity?

Also, if you look at the history of the Koestler Parapsychology Unit, the only chair in parapsychology at a British university, you will see that it was founded by a hefty bequest from the will of Arthur Koestler, the Hungarian-born writer, who was in his later years fascinated by ESP/ telekinesis before committing suicide along with his wife when terminally ill -- the trustees of his will had enormous trouble finding a reputable British institution to accept the bequest, which specified it must be used for a professorship in the paranormal, and tried Oxford, Cambridge, KCL, UCL and others before Edinburgh agreed. Most universities do not think this constitutes a legitimate research field, and even in those who do, the research is often into the history of paranormal beliefs, or paranormal beliefs as a cultural phenomenon.

My mistake, yes, you are right. They are all mentally ill/attention-seeking/have brain disorders.

You feel how you feel. Doesn't mean he saw a ghost ffs.

I totally agree. It is the height of ignorance to assume one knows everything there is to know about the world we live in and the way things work.

I can only imagine people take that stance out of fear.

Do you actually think anyone is going to engage with you when you start off that way?

These topics always bring out the most intellectually pompous of reactions. Someone should study that.

Its a good think not everyone approaches everything unknown with an all-knowing attitude. We’d still be thinking the earth is flat.

To be fair, no-one here knows why they're suffering from hallucinations including you.

'The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.'
Nikola Tesla

Science is currently operating under the materialist approach and it's becoming more and more apparent that there really is more to the world than that which our senses can interpret.

So you're not going to clarify?

If he had this experience and also showed troubling symptoms with his mental health, something could be wrong. But if he has this experience and nothing else is going on, why shouldn't the paranormal be a possibility? We don't know all there is to know about this world.

Many people have had such experiences and they can't all be insane or mentally ill. I've had experiences that simply could not be explained and I consider my mental health to be pretty solid.

What if it's a "hallucination" (as you put it) that gives you accurate info that you didn't have access to and shouldn't have known. Some would call that mediumship. How do you explain those "hallucinations"? Especially when it keeps happening?

It would be very sensible to visit a doctor first, to find out why he thought he could see a dead man following him around a building.

This would be sensible no matter what a person believes.

I'm not a doctor and I'm going to assume you aren't either?

This is why he should probably see one and explain what happened.

😁😁😁this reminds me of a famous ghost story where a hard headed American family buy a haunted.stately home. The resident ghost is thrilled to have new victims to terrorise but no matter how hard he tried, he failed to scare them. The Americans were too practical. Every manifestation of the ghost was explained by science or physics.but sadly there was no mention of cognitive decline or UTIs !

He should have a listen to the 'Uncanny' podcasts on Spotify- some very compelling real life ghost stories on them. I'm ever so slightly addicted. He's definitely not the only one who's had unexplainable experiences

I can just see a doctor in the ten minutes they allow taking the time to do mediumship for patients! Haha!

Just remembered the title of the story. Oscar Wilde's 'The CantervillemGhost'

No, but I have experience in this area. The doctor's response will depend on their own beliefs. They may prescribe medication for ADHD (that the person may not need) or if they are a believer and they don't feel there is anything wrong with the person's mental health, they will chalk it up to a weird and unexplained experience.

They will want to know the entire picture of the person's symptoms. They're unlikely to recommend an intervention based off a one off paranormal experience.

The Anglican Church has priests that do exorcisms. Why do they go to peoples' houses (people who claim to have seen ghosts in their house) to do these ceremonies & why aren't they sending everyone off to the doctor? It's because people have a lot of these experiences.

Some people who have hallucinations are going to be mentally ill, many are not.

You wrote that you had neither the time nor inclination to explain yourself. It’s bizarre to think someone who doesn’t know you would be interested in a one sided discussion, upon your command.

Tesla, who was born in 1856, and, for all his genius, had some 19thc beliefs such as in the 'ether' and in selective eugenic breeding, and who didn't believe electrons existed?

I have an old friend a priest who is the diocesan exorcist, but, given the falling and ageing Catholic priest population, is the defacto exorcist for about one third of the country. He's done under ten exorcisms in his entire career, and he is in his late 70s. They will always assume a MH explanation first, and only after every other possibility is exhausted will they even contemplate it.

@Listengold, I spent the night at a converted jailhouse just a few months ago. I'd Googled it out of curiosity before we arrived, but I wasn't looking very hard and didn't pull up anything on my initial search.

Had a little explore around with my group and we went into this empty room off to the side. Not used as a guest bedroom or kept for anything other than historical value - there was a sign up saying it had been an isolation cell.

I went in and it was like a switch had been flipped. I felt so awful in there that I quickly exited and things went back to normal. I am not claustrophobic in the slightest - I've let coworkers tape me into cardboard boxes for a laugh - and the room was not especially small. And whilst I am interested in woo, I try my best to listen to my instincts and not lead myself on. 9 times out of the 10 that I go somewhere haunted, I get a little disappointed because I don't feel anything. Not even the Tower of London spooked me out - the scariest part of that was the admission fee!

@Arlanymor - I'm pretty sure I know exactly where you mean. We had some very strange experiences there as well, including a few I have not previously shared on MN. We actually went back the same day like teens in a horror film, and nothing happened the second time... kind of weird, given we should have been on edge from all the stuff that happened before!