Sensible DH saw something spooky

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Recently we went to visit an old jail.
In the reception area DH was laughing and talking to the man on the desk.
All good advised to go through the door into an annex and read lots of information to help us understand and make the most of the tour. There was only us in that part.
Go through the door into the annex which was empty and DH started to feel down.
Read the info and started to the next room DH started to get upset.
After 3 more rooms we had to leave as DH was crying.

Outside the man on the desk told us that a séance had been performed 3 nights before. DH wouldn't say much.
It was nearly 5 hours later DH felt comfortable to say that there was a man following us which made him worried. The way he described the man was that he was dressed in tatty clothes and had something around his legs. He said he was getting upset because of the sight of this poor man.
There is a lot more but he said that he couldn't tell me anymore as he thinks I'd not believe him.

DH is sensible, not prone to exaggerate and always says it is rubbish people seeing things.

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I find this video very interesting.

Consciousness exists outside of the brain.

I do think there are things that can't be explained. It's probable that terrible things happened there and your husband felt that energy. I'm pretty rational and generally skeptical but I do think there are still things we don't understand.

I'll tell you something that happened to me. Not ghostly but definitely strange. My sister died aged 19, many years ago, I was 12. About a year later, I was alone in the house watching tv and doing some ironing. I suddenly smelled tea roses very strongly, like perfume. My sister loved the smell of roses and often wore perfume like that. It was so strong that I actually went out into the hallway to see if she was there. Rationally of course I knew she couldn't be but I honestly almost expected her to be there.

Now, it could just be my mind playing tricks but I wasn't thinking about her at the time or feeling particularly upset or anything. Who knows?

Every single paranormal experience I've ever read about and the 20 years I've spent investigating the most haunted places in Britain have led me to absolutely believe that it's all in the human mind. All of it. I like listening to the Uncanny podcasts but again everything that I've heard so far can be explained by the human brain or by someone telling a massive, great big whopping lie (or what starts as an exaggeration getting way out of hand).

The only medical conditions I know of that cause hallucinations are schizophrenia (although that produces auditory hallucinations rather than visual) very high fever and hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the brain).

If there are more I'd be interested to know what they are.

All the ones I mentioned above would have other symptoms.

I know several rational people who have experienced unexplained events, usually as 'one-offs'.

Jesus wept. These passive aggressive "get him some help", "he might have mental issues" posts are very jarring. Not everything has a simple explanation. There are things in our world that are not easily explained away.

I agree,

My exH had two 'odd' experiences.

One in a car he had just bought (I wasn't with him)

And one in a Victorian house I rented with another girl. He was in the bathroom at the time and we were the other side of the house.
My housemate and I had also had 'odd' experiences in the house and eventually they caused so many problems I left.

That ‘explanation’ is that of a naive, credulous, neurodivergent 15 year old fictional character in a children’s book, and one who is wrong about pretty much everything, including his own mother’s ‘death’, so I wouldn’t get too carried away.

I used to work in an old stately home and I had to be in there by myself many times to set up for weddings etc. I had a few spiky experiences in the short time I worked there (1 year).

"Not everything has a simple explanation. There are things in our world that are not easily explained away."

Of course there are. That doesn't mean the explanation is paranormal.

😂I mean, I take your point, I'm just saying I like the idea and find reassurance in it.

Although I take exception to the point about the character's neurodivergence - I think when discussing concepts like this neurodivergence can be extremely helpful, because it's important to look at the world through multiple lenses when we're seeking the truth. And I say that as someone who (as far as I'm aware) is NT.

I’d be more worried that’s he’s got something criminal going on , and the thought of jail made him emotional, then he had to come up with an excuse to account for his emotional outburst🤔

More like he's had a hard day.

Ghosts aren't real.

I'm guessing (hoping!) there's not a doctor in the land who when presented with a patient telling them they were 'followed' by a Victorian prisoner, and broke down sobbing, would say "No your mental health is absolutely fine because ghosts do exist" 😳

Hahaha

I'm here for this.

Depends if this would fall outside of your definition of medical but suggestion and mass hysteria can also be responsible for a lot of so-called paranormal experiences.

I agree with you as a general rule, but this is a specific child fictional character who doesn’t understand figurative language, jokes, or facial expressions, let alone why someone might think he’d killed a dog if he was found in the middle of the night, covered in blood, holding the dog and the murder weapon, so I’m not sure I’d regard him as a likely guide to future explanations of the supernatural.

I've had similar experiences in various places, not seen anything but felt the suffering if that makes sense and wouldn't be right for a while after. Makes perfect sense to me. I find it hilarious that people who don't pick up on these things automatically assume insanity. There's so much unexplained in the world. Like a previous poster said its madness to think we know it all, we don't.

Why did he not say:

"Fuck me, theres a man following us, do you see that?"

I know doctors who believe in ghosts. Working in hospitals some of them have been in a position to experience some strange things when people die. My mother was a nurse (and a skeptic) and she had strange experiences, too.

Lol. I love how, when people want to make us believe this crap, they always add on that the person who felt or saw something, isn’t at all into anything ‘woo’. So it must be true. 🤣

Well, insanity or credulity, or superstitiousness? Or an inability to distinguish between reality and fantasy? And, judging by these threads’ usual course, a general ignorance of science and a tendency to misquote Hamlet.

This reminds me of when I was a child living at home we sometimes had a smell of cigarettes in the upstairs loo. No one in the house smoked and we weren’t near any neighbours or the road for the smell to waft up. My mum used to say it was the old man who lived in the house before us (who had died before we bought the house) going for a cheeky fag away from his wife. It was only ever in that one room.

If the afterlife exists, how fun is it going to be for the skeptics? It will be quite a shock! People in their NDE experiences talk about the shock of dying but still existing, and not expecting to. And if it doesn't exist, of course none of us will know that.