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We need to have enough tinned food and bottled water to be self sufficient for three days

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CruCru · 22/05/2024 20:51

There’s a thing in the Times about the Prepare campaign - people need to be prepared for risks like localised flooding, another pandemic, a mass cyberattack which cuts off the internet, disruption to UK space systems that affect GPS signals, conflict and nuclear attack.

I must admit that my first thought was that there are countries in the West Indies who have these sorts of rules - mainly in case of hurricanes. It probably would be useful to have bottled water if we had flooding and the mains water would be turned off. Am a bit horrified by the mention of nuclear war but perhaps this has been overly highlighted by the Times.

Have you seen this? What do you think?

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ohnoohnoohno2 · 23/05/2024 11:06

Cocolapew · 23/05/2024 08:55

I have about 1000 packet of crisps and I'm willing to eat all the Cornettos in my freezer if the electric goes off.

If its a nuclear war I'll be running towards the missiles, who'd want to survive that?

1000 packets of crisps is impressive.

I need to lose weight, a few days of fruit would do me nicely

AgnesX · 23/05/2024 11:07

Snerl · 22/05/2024 20:55

I passed an MOD convoy carrying nuclear warheads yesterday so maybe they're onto something...
(Mostly joking. In seriousness, it's probably not a bad idea to have a few days worth of stuff in the house. But I assume most people do anyway? I don't go to the shop every day!)

They've been doing that since I was in my 20s (aka 30 years) so nothing new.

caringcarer · 23/05/2024 11:07

sashh · 23/05/2024 06:06

I know where I'm going in the zombie apocalypse.

🤣 I've got a camping stove with gas bomb too and plenty of vodka.

RainbowsMoonbeams · 23/05/2024 11:11

Sounds like fear induced bollocks, sponsored by Tesco.

JuiceBoxJuggler · 23/05/2024 11:12

In the event of a nuclear war, unless you've a bunker - wouldn't be concerned about supplies.

The rest - do as you wish.

Bjorkdidit · 23/05/2024 11:12

ohnoohnoohno2 · 23/05/2024 11:03

What???!!!

It's just routine. Made by the Atomic Weapons Establishment and then transported (under armed guard you'll be pleased to learn) to military bases around the country.

godmum56 · 23/05/2024 11:14

BeTwinklyBee · 23/05/2024 10:42

I wouldn't say regularly but not rare.

In one hospital I worked at, we had occasional exercises where we pretended something catastrophic had happened to check we had plans in place and knew how to action one.

I remember one was we pretended the petrol station across the road had exploded...

Much more common/routine are the emails when a severe weather event is predicted and you e.g get reminded prior to a heatwave to drink more water, give more water to patients and not put jumpers on patients 😂

Oh, and I remember lots of furore and emails about swine flu and bird flu and how to prepare for mass sickness in teams and cover for it. And covid of course. They had a point with covid TBF, less so with others.

oh yeah we used to get the mass sickness ones along with the flu vac dates and locations and also noro warning ones at the start of winter and when there was a local outbreak.

Starlight1979 · 23/05/2024 11:15

Nat6999 · 22/05/2024 22:53

I live on soda water & peppermint cordial, I buy in bulk, so usually have around 24 litres in stock, I won't go thirsty. If the outgoing government sorted the water companies out, we wouldn't be worrying about storing water. They are recommending 10 litres per person per day to allow for washing etc, so 30 litres per person, can you imagine a family of 6 storing 180 litres of water just on the off chance there would be a disaster?

Oooh I like the sound of this (as an alternative to wine on my non-drinking days 😂). Stupid question but does it taste like fizzy mint water???

nothingsforgotten · 23/05/2024 11:15

frozendaisy · 23/05/2024 07:58

This is fucking wrong.

How it has been reported, and the posts on here, is going to make very vulnerable people really quite frightened. So irresponsible.

It would be more constructive to say "in the event of an emergency the vulnerable should call this number or get to this meeting point"
Something along those lines. But no that would mean some proper governing.

And then there are posts on here, the humble brag, we can chlorinate our private stream stuff. We are a G7 country (just) certainly G20 and people seem chuffed to be able to purify dirt water.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is utterly insane?

And yet, as has been mentioned several times on this thread, it is standard advice in many parts of the world.

If you think it's just a matter of calling a number or going to a meeting point then you've obviously never been involved in an actual disaster. There could well be times when everyone has to fend for themselves for a few days - the government can't magically fix everything.

godmum56 · 23/05/2024 11:15

being (semi) serious for a moment, I don't think it can be nuclear war prep because, as others have said, there would be no point.

afterfive · 23/05/2024 11:18

Lazytiger · 23/05/2024 08:13

The UK isn’t even at the stage of having a plan, let alone a booklet!

In a catastrophic event I’m getting in the XC40, typing ‘HOME’ in the cars nav system and heading over to Sweden! 😊

You can park right next to my XC70. Welcome! 😂

SabreIsMyFave · 23/05/2024 11:18

I'm not being funny, but who on earth doesn't have THREE DAYS worth of food/supplies? Confused Yes me and DH are in a fortunate financial position now (no kids at home, no mortgage, 2 incomes, low to mid 5-figure savings in the bank,) but we have been on the bones of our arse in the past. We were for around a decade.

Yet we still had at least a week's supply of food and supplies in. Way more than a week of some supplies. I don't buy it, that anyone has less than 3 days supply of necessities in, unless they are hugely disorganised and scatty. I bet these same people also wait til their meds run out before putting their prescription repeat in, and then yell at the pharmacy staff when it's not ready 3 hours after they put it in at the GP!

nothingsforgotten · 23/05/2024 11:19

frozendaisy · 23/05/2024 08:16

I will check the bottled water aisle in a bit just out of interest

It goes off you know bottled water.

And more plastic makes natural disasters more likely and extreme not less.

It's madness.

What is wrong with you all?? You don't need to buy bottled water! You simply fill containers from the taps, store it, and refresh it now and again. What has happened to common sense?

Angrymum22 · 23/05/2024 11:20

Validus · 23/05/2024 10:48

Solar panels and batteries. That’s what I use.

also - your diesel won’t necessarily last. They use electricity to pump the fuel out of the underground tanks. No electric = no fuel.

We have access to red diesel and generators so will be good for a while.

Nellieinthebarn · 23/05/2024 11:26

Just idly checked my pantry and freezers, it looks like we wont starve for weeks. But the menus will be a bit boring, and odd. Is there an apocalypse menu plan anywhere?

Bjorkdidit · 23/05/2024 11:26

godmum56 · 23/05/2024 11:15

being (semi) serious for a moment, I don't think it can be nuclear war prep because, as others have said, there would be no point.

Well it depends where the nuclear war is, and the scale of it. All out planet destroying nuclear war probably won't happen. But a nuclear power station could leak. A small scale nuclear bomb could be set off some distance away.

And for most of us, we'll survive that quite happily but the water supply might not be safe. Or we might have to wait for it to be tested to see whether or not it is. Likewise other foodstuffs (milk, crops). So it makes sense to have some supplies in you can use. Especially if people are told to shelter to reduce their radiation exposure. Far easier to get people to stay inside for a few days if they aren't panicking about not having anything to eat and drink.

GasPanic · 23/05/2024 11:27

I think the most important thing is to stock up on foods that you can actually eat cold. If you stock up on stuff that needs cooking then it is going to be no good when the power is out.

Cans last for a long time - I have eaten loads past the sell buy date and never come to any harm.

As for water, I have a load of those stacker box things that I use to store stuff in the loft. I could fill some of those with water and they would last for ages. And I have a couple of packs of water purifying tablets. They make the water taste like shit but at least you would survive.

Lazytiger · 23/05/2024 11:28

Humm, they had a well researched and evidence-based plan on how to run the country in the event of a pandemic caused by an airborne disease! Then ignored it because they panicked.
The government are stoking this up because they want the message that ‘change is bad’ circulating now they have called an election. Everything else is common sense and self preservation- something people had in spades before the 1980s!

BeTwinklyBee · 23/05/2024 11:30

godmum56 · 23/05/2024 11:14

oh yeah we used to get the mass sickness ones along with the flu vac dates and locations and also noro warning ones at the start of winter and when there was a local outbreak.

They screwed themselves over (I do know it had to happen due to possible risk/infection control and there was no other way) at the start of covid before testing was available when everyone was told they would have to take 2 weeks off if any possible symptoms which at that time could be anything remotely like a cough or cold and it wouldn't count towards sickness levels.

Then thousands of NHS workers took advantage and had 2 weeks off sitting in the garden in the sunshine lol.

GasPanic · 23/05/2024 11:32

ohnoohnoohno2 · 23/05/2024 11:06

1000 packets of crisps is impressive.

I need to lose weight, a few days of fruit would do me nicely

You'd probably die if you ate that many crisps anyway, so there wouldn't be much point.

Lazytiger · 23/05/2024 11:33

Nellieinthebarn · 23/05/2024 11:26

Just idly checked my pantry and freezers, it looks like we wont starve for weeks. But the menus will be a bit boring, and odd. Is there an apocalypse menu plan anywhere?

Micheal Moseley is probably on the case! In the meantime just try any of his other calorie and time restricted diets.

Endamame bean pasta is a bugger to get hold of at the best of times. Might have to see the end of the World out in a Holland Barrett to be on the safe side.

wonderings2 · 23/05/2024 11:37

We are due to move in the next few months so I'm trying to run everything down...

Tbh I have enough that we wouldn't stave, I might make sure Ive got plently of wine though

Diyextension · 23/05/2024 11:37

You can live without food for 7 days anywAy so no need to stock up.

GuppytheCat · 23/05/2024 11:38

Nat6999 · 22/05/2024 22:53

I live on soda water & peppermint cordial, I buy in bulk, so usually have around 24 litres in stock, I won't go thirsty. If the outgoing government sorted the water companies out, we wouldn't be worrying about storing water. They are recommending 10 litres per person per day to allow for washing etc, so 30 litres per person, can you imagine a family of 6 storing 180 litres of water just on the off chance there would be a disaster?

It's a surprisingly small volume, really. I have a 60 litre fish tank that's pretty tiny in the grand scheme of things; not that I'm planning on swigging the fishy water even in the direst emergency.

SiobhanSharpe · 23/05/2024 11:40

caringcarer · 22/05/2024 21:02

I've got 2 full freezers and lots of tinned and dried goods and could manage for 2 months if I had to but I've only got 1 x 5 litre large water and about 10 small bottles. DH has just remarked we'd have to drink wine because we've got more wine than water. 🤣

Us too. But we could always have sprizters if necessary because we have more bottled fizzy water than plain...