How is the current benefits system sustainable?

[OneLemonOrca]

This is kind of a sub thread from the public enquiry thread about child development.
More and more people are being diagnosed with autism and severe anxiety, and being deemed unfit to work full time or at all.
I am wondering what is going to happen or how this will actually be sustained. Is there going to be changes in eligibility to benefits? Is there anyone that actually knows?

What do you mean so many people would not spend the money 'as intended'?

Where is it intended to be spent - on family expenses?

Where are you suggesting it will be spent instead (I smell a nasty, classist assumption).

With what evidence?

Fags ,beer, and sky TV.
The lower classes don't spend money on their children don't you know.
Spot on with the nasty insinuation.

The UK is pretty punitive on tax evasion for large companies. Most of the tax gap relates to the self employed.

I was surprised about the change on MN with regard to the statistics showing more and more people are choosing not to work. There is a hardening of attitudes. If society has to choose between a ridiculously high welfare budget and adequate provision for schools, hospitals, health care etc, more people are demanding that budgets for social care are cut to protect essential services.
Why work to invest in a pension, to house and feed your family if the Government tops up via pension credit and housing benefit those who choose not to provide for themselves?
I don't blame youngsters for being resentful when they have to take out huge student loans, can't afford to leave home and know that they will work into their seventies to support those who do not have the same work ethic.
Some posters really don't get that there are not huge money pots to be spent on services. Everyone has to play their part and pay into the state so that society is fair and equal.

Can I ask why you chose to tag me when I’d simply agreed with another poster. For clarity I replied ‘quite’ as I agreed with them.

I will remind you of the OP.

This is kind of a sub thread from the public enquiry thread about child development.
More and more people are being diagnosed with autism and severe anxiety, and being deemed unfit to work full time or at all.
I am wondering what is going to happen or how this will actually be sustained. Is there going to be changes in eligibility to benefits? Is there anyone that actually knows?

Please also point out where I (or anyone else on this thread) said that they saw your life as disposable? This is an issue YOU have, not anyone else. You are projecting YOUR anxiety onto others.

Don’t quote posters that simply reply ‘quite’ to another and come on here making YOUR issues personal to another poster. If you have something to say then say it but do not quote someone who has merely agreed with another person.

Why work to invest in a pension, to house and feed your family if the Government tops up via pension credit and housing benefit those who choose not to provide for themselves?

The problem with your comment is
1- people who are in receipt of benefits do NOT chose to not provide fir themselves. They are ill, work MW, have some SN. None of that is a choice as such
2- of those working MW and receiving benefits, the issue really us tyat MW doesn’t allow you to live. Maybe there is a need to have a word both with the government who sets the MW and companies who, to get maximum profits, are happy to not pay a living wage to workers.
3- its not possible to expect people on MW to 'get a better job' because our society would collapse wo all of those menial jobs. That’s why these were also the so called ‘essential workers’ during lockdowns.
4- if the number of people unable to work is increasing, then it’s up to the government to sort out why and take action. Lots of talk about the impact of lockdowns. I’m not sure that’s the cause tbh. Covid itself is more likely. But also the increase in poverty, job insecurity etc etc… all are well known causes of deteriorating health. Taking people out of poverty (rather than what the Tories have done in the 14 years they’ve been in power) means better health and therefire less need to support disabled people. Ofc now that those people are ill, they are also much less likely to get better and work again so that will a legacy that the next government will have to deal with.

fwiw most of young people tend to support redistribution and support of the most vulnerable.
The resentment is usually when ‘the older generations’ are telling them to buckle up because they had it worse when by all accounts/measures, it’s not the case.
And the U.K. doesn’t have, proportionally, a huge budget for benefits/support for disabled people. Actually the UN took the U.K. to Court (and the U.K. was found guilty) for not respecting human rights re the amount of benefits received by disabled people…..