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Can you help me with this maths problem?

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MathsMagpie · 09/05/2024 18:11

Or explain where to start?

Can you help me with this maths problem?
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EatCrow · 09/05/2024 19:08

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:05

I still think the q is badly worded.

I wonder if that is part of the maths question, if you see what I mean?

fedupandstuck · 09/05/2024 19:08

Ok, but why are you doing that and what is badly worded about the question?

EatCrow · 09/05/2024 19:10

fedupandstuck · 09/05/2024 19:08

Ok, but why are you doing that and what is badly worded about the question?

I wasn’t one who said it was badly worded, I just saw it as a simple sum. So I’m wondering if that is part of the question, to make one figure out how to do it?

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Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:16

Frequency. How often did something happen. How many times were a 12th text sent.

40 pupils. So add up how many texts in total that they sent. We know they sent either 4,5,6,7 or 8 texts. Joe many texts were sent in total?
4 texts were sent by 2 circles and one bit, ie 9. 4 x 9 = 36

Add all the numbers together.

4 x 9 = 36
5 x 10 = 50
6 x 8 = 48
7 x 3 = 21
8 x 10 = 80

Total 235. 235 texts were sent total. How many times then were a 12th text sent. 235 / 12 = 19.58

Op hasn't come back yet to tell us whether that's the right answer. I have no idea. If it's the right answer! It was just a guess because all the other answers of eg 0 , which was my 1st thought, were wrong.

fedupandstuck · 09/05/2024 19:16

So, 235 texts in total, divided by 12 tells you what mathematical fact?

MaySheWillStayRestingInMyArmsAgain · 09/05/2024 19:18

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:04

4x9
5x10
6x8
7x3
8x10

=235 / 12 = 19.58

235 is the total number of texts sent.

To find the mean (average) you divide the total number of texts (235) by the total number of pupils (40).

That gives the mean as 5.875 texts, so on average the pupils sent 5.875 texts.

I don’t see why you’d divide by 12, except that’s a number the question asks about. 😀

Edit: cross-posted with the last couple of posts.

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:20

May, average isn't frequency though.

xsquared · 09/05/2024 19:20

Either the answer is 0, because 0 pupils sent 12 texts, or there is something wrong with Dr Frost.

MaySheWillStayRestingInMyArmsAgain · 09/05/2024 19:23

Exactly. I was trying to make sense of 235.

I think the general agreement on this thread is that there’s a fault in the question.

If this happens to someone doing a homework I’d set, my standard advice is to stop working on the question and ask when they were back in school.

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:25

Frequency rate.

Can you help me with this maths problem?
xsquared · 09/05/2024 19:29

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:25

Frequency rate.

That's not what the question is though, and that isn't a year 8 topic either. In fact, I haven't seen it in the specification as a stand alone topic, but it might be the sort of thing that comes up in an exam to assess whether learners can use formulae.

Elieza · 09/05/2024 20:04

I'm invested in this now! We must have answers tomorrow OP! Grin

MathsMagpie · 09/05/2024 20:10

We can’t try any different answers now, it’s been put in incorrectly too many times. Will update when we find out!

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RubySloth · 09/05/2024 20:13

Would it be 11? 7 and 4 texts are the only ones to add up to 12 frequencies.

handmademitlove · 09/05/2024 20:18

Just a warning that if this is Sparx or hearty then sometimes the answer is wrong - and then you can't move on....

CharlotteBog · 09/05/2024 20:24

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 19:04

4x9
5x10
6x8
7x3
8x10

=235 / 12 = 19.58

19.58 pupils?
I think we can be sure that the number of pupils will be a whole number!

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 20:49

@MathsMagpie

Oh no, the suspense. Will kill me. I hate waiting. Beg you to update as soon as you find out op! Smile

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 20:50

It's not frequency of pupil. It's frequency of texts.

Viviennemary · 09/05/2024 20:52

No idea what the little circles are. And no idea what the numbers mean either.

CharlotteBog · 09/05/2024 20:57

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 20:50

It's not frequency of pupil. It's frequency of texts.

But the value in the frequency column is the number of pupils (a whole circle = 4 pupils). No?

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 21:17

No frequency is not the number of pupils, it's the number of times the act was done, the frequency, it relates to how many texts were sent. How often, how regularly. How frequent. It's not the pupils that's the focus, it's the texts that we should be focusing on. How many texts were sent, how often, at what frequency were the texts sent.

CharlotteBog · 09/05/2024 21:22

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 21:17

No frequency is not the number of pupils, it's the number of times the act was done, the frequency, it relates to how many texts were sent. How often, how regularly. How frequent. It's not the pupils that's the focus, it's the texts that we should be focusing on. How many texts were sent, how often, at what frequency were the texts sent.

I understand what frequency is, I just don't see how it relates to how the question is posed.
The values in the frequency column refer to the number of pupils.
The frequency column is not the number of texts.

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 21:23

Very odd / badly phrased question.

NoProblems · 09/05/2024 21:24

The questions are wrong, so there cannot be correct answers.

If they were trick questions, the answers would be 0, which is not the case, and in any serious homework, there wouldn't be two such questions.

I strongly recommend that the child's parents ask the teacher who set this homework.

Which website are these questions on? Schools should not be using such websites.

CharlotteBog · 09/05/2024 21:25

Oblomov24 · 09/05/2024 21:23

Very odd / badly phrased question.

Yes. I am itching to know the sodding answer.

Always, kids don't send texts these days, it's Snapchat

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