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Dd hit car whilst riding her bike

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Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 21:48

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of!
Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

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WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 12:46

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:45

I’ve read your updates OP and the driver was clearly at fault for the accident, not your DD. She was travelling along the main road, and he was in a side road. He should have watched for her. I agree with making a report to the police. U would also get have DD see her GP to be assessed for a head injury/concussion as a mild TBI can occur in such an accident which can weeks later cause significant health problems. This can happen even if wearing a cycle helmet as the TBI occurs from the brain hitting the inside of the skull.

That’s not what happened. She was not on the main road. You’re completely wrong. The driver was not at fault.

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:47

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:44

But she’s not a road user she was on the pavement.

Doesn’t matter whether she was walking, running, cycling, scootering, or doing cartwheels-, pavement users crossing side roads have right of way and are still to be watched for by drivers approaching a main road from a side road. He should have stopped and not hit her.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:47

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:45

I’ve read your updates OP and the driver was clearly at fault for the accident, not your DD. She was travelling along the main road, and he was in a side road. He should have watched for her. I agree with making a report to the police. U would also get have DD see her GP to be assessed for a head injury/concussion as a mild TBI can occur in such an accident which can weeks later cause significant health problems. This can happen even if wearing a cycle helmet as the TBI occurs from the brain hitting the inside of the skull.

Did you miss the post that said the 17 years and 14 month old was on the pavement?

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:48

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 12:46

That’s not what happened. She was not on the main road. You’re completely wrong. The driver was not at fault.

I didn’t say she was on the main road. Perhaps try reading posts before mangling them and claiming they are wrong,

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 12:48

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:29

Injured in this case means needs medical attention.

Which she didn’t need

What was he actually meant to do - hold her against her will while he rang a doctor? Bundle her in his car?

Yes but you see I’d have got my dc medical attention in this instance.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:48

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:47

Doesn’t matter whether she was walking, running, cycling, scootering, or doing cartwheels-, pavement users crossing side roads have right of way and are still to be watched for by drivers approaching a main road from a side road. He should have stopped and not hit her.

But if a car is already there they can’t just fly into the side of it having expected it to move.

The law stipulates clearly that cyclists pedestrians etc STILL have to check their surroundings - they have a right of way not a right to put themselves in danger and blame the driver

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:48

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:47

Did you miss the post that said the 17 years and 14 month old was on the pavement?

No, nothing I have said contradicts that. You can travel along a main road on its pavement.

taxguru · 23/04/2024 12:49

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:14

The Highway Code does not stipulate that pedestrians can walk into cars without looking and then blame the driver

And that law still requires pedestrians to stop BTW. They have right of way not a right to just step out without looking

The revised guidance explicitly states:-

"It does not remove the need for everyone to behave responsibly."

That includes cyclists and pedestrians!!

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:49

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:48

But if a car is already there they can’t just fly into the side of it having expected it to move.

The law stipulates clearly that cyclists pedestrians etc STILL have to check their surroundings - they have a right of way not a right to put themselves in danger and blame the driver

The car wasn’t “already there”.

WarshipRocinante · 23/04/2024 12:49

@Cherryon

He didn’t hit her! The OP said he was already turning. He had approached the junction, pavement and main road were clear, he was moving off to turn onto the main road.

Meanwhile, her daughter was cycling too fast along the pavement to the blind corner and then went straight out into the road and into the side of his car, after he had already drive up to pavement level/past pavement level because it was clear. She came past a blind bend because of the hedge too fast for anyone to see and react, especially he couldn’t react because he was side onto her. She went into him.

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 12:49

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 12:48

Yes but you see I’d have got my dc medical attention in this instance.

No. But it’s an incident that ought to be recorded.

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 12:49

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:47

Doesn’t matter whether she was walking, running, cycling, scootering, or doing cartwheels-, pavement users crossing side roads have right of way and are still to be watched for by drivers approaching a main road from a side road. He should have stopped and not hit her.

He was turning and the DD cycled into the side of his car. He was there first. She hit him.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:49

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 12:48

Yes but you see I’d have got my dc medical attention in this instance.

So would I and a few of us told OP to get her DD checked out.

But in terms of the driver if the OP’s 18yo protested that she’s fine and is it injured, is he supposed to not believe her and pin her down until and ambulance comes?

taxguru · 23/04/2024 12:50

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:47

Doesn’t matter whether she was walking, running, cycling, scootering, or doing cartwheels-, pavement users crossing side roads have right of way and are still to be watched for by drivers approaching a main road from a side road. He should have stopped and not hit her.

He DIDN'T hit her. She cycled into the side of him!

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 12:50

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:47

Doesn’t matter whether she was walking, running, cycling, scootering, or doing cartwheels-, pavement users crossing side roads have right of way and are still to be watched for by drivers approaching a main road from a side road. He should have stopped and not hit her.

It does if she rode out from where she was obscured behind a hedge without looking, which is exactly what she did because she's an idiot.

The OP has admitted all of this already.

It also says "me" in her drawing and not "DD" to indicate the position of the cyclist, so I'm beginning to wonder if it was actually her who did this, and not her 17-year-and-14-month-old-not-at-all-a-minor-and-therefore-criminally-responsible DD at all.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:50

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:49

The car wasn’t “already there”.

Well clearly it was, otherwise she wouldn’t have hit the side of it would she.

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 12:50

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:49

So would I and a few of us told OP to get her DD checked out.

But in terms of the driver if the OP’s 18yo protested that she’s fine and is it injured, is he supposed to not believe her and pin her down until and ambulance comes?

It’s relevant to op reporting

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 12:51

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:50

Well clearly it was, otherwise she wouldn’t have hit the side of it would she.

The basic laws of physics are beyond these people, sadly.

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:51

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:48

But if a car is already there they can’t just fly into the side of it having expected it to move.

The law stipulates clearly that cyclists pedestrians etc STILL have to check their surroundings - they have a right of way not a right to put themselves in danger and blame the driver

Well saying “put yourself in danger” sounds like you are saying the DD rode into a stationary car on purpose which is not what happened. Drivers have the most responsibility to watch for other road users (and yes part of a road is its pavement).

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:52

Calliopespa · 23/04/2024 12:50

It’s relevant to op reporting

If OP wants to report her DD for illegal cycling that’s fine but this was around a discussion that the driver was somehow negligible because he didn’t call an ambulance for the not-child

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:52

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 12:51

The basic laws of physics are beyond these people, sadly.

That isn’t the case. He was turning from the side road onto the main road and did not see her as part of oncoming traffic along road and pavement. He should have given way.

taxguru · 23/04/2024 12:52

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:51

Well saying “put yourself in danger” sounds like you are saying the DD rode into a stationary car on purpose which is not what happened. Drivers have the most responsibility to watch for other road users (and yes part of a road is its pavement).

But they still can't teleport themselves away if someone is going to cycle into the SIDE of them.

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 12:54

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:52

That isn’t the case. He was turning from the side road onto the main road and did not see her as part of oncoming traffic along road and pavement. He should have given way.

Were you there?

The OP says her DD didn't see the car turning and rode into the side of him.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 12:54

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 12:51

Well saying “put yourself in danger” sounds like you are saying the DD rode into a stationary car on purpose which is not what happened. Drivers have the most responsibility to watch for other road users (and yes part of a road is its pavement).

My kids are 7 and nearly 11. I teach them that if they have an accident, they may not have done it on purpose but the fact they weren’t concentrating, were reckless and not thinking ahead means that the consequences are the exact same as if they’d done it on purpose. Which is why they need to pay attention in life.

If my 7yo gets it why can’t a 17yo? If she’d killed a toddler or baby saying to the judge “I didn’t do it on purpose” would be entirely irrelevant when her actions were neglectful and dangerous

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