Holiday vs prospect of war

[WisterWayne]

DH and I are lucky enough to have twin girls, they will be 7 in June. They have always been very into Disney, love Frozen and all the princesses.

About 2 years ago DH and I made a decision we'd love to take them to Disneyworld in Orlando - DH also loves Star Wars so seemed like a wonderful trip.

We have literally spent 2 long, hard years saving, going without little luxuries such as takeaways/weekends away so that we have enough money not only to book holiday of a lifetime but have spending money put by too - we didn't want to book the wonderful thing then worry about spending whilst we're there.

Both DH and I are on very average wages, only slightly above minimum and this holiday really means a lot to us, I can't wait for our girls to see everything they love on screen come to life.

Family know we have been saving and we finally have enough so are now ready to book but today DH's mum took me aside and said it would be silly to book now as we're on the verge of a world war and all our precious savings would be wasted.

I confess I don't watch a lot of news, my world is quite small and revolves around my family, my job and our friends - however I am of course aware of the terrible conflict in Ukraine and everything going on in Gaza. I've also heard things on the radio in passing about army chiefs suggesting conscription and moving into a pre war age. But in truth don't understand a lot of it and don't want to terrify myself going into all the reading.

DH's mum is usually very level headed, calm and rational and isn't a conspiracy theorist or anything similar but... is she right? Would we be foolish to book an American holiday right now?

If a war broke out how would something like that even look these days? My only reference is the 1940s when people didn't go on luxury long haul flights as far as I'm aware.

Can anyone who understands advise?

100% Agree.

BOOK THE HOLIDAY!

Before you book, remember to do your ESTAs. These are needed to enter USA, valid for 2 years. No ESTA = No entry. I've read quite a few posts on Facebook of travellers not knowing of they're needed. And if for some crazy reason that it's denied, getting a visa from the embassy is a hassle and a lengthy process. And echoing others, travel insurance straight after you book.

It's Orlando Time on facebook is a great group, full of tips and other people's experiences/blogs. Helped me when I booked our 1st trip and had a ton of questions.

Have a fabulous time and make some memories with your family.

And...Bring your mother in law back a nice big disney fridge magnet so she's reminded of what she tried to put you off doing everything she goes to the fridge 😄

don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat while sitting in your bunker

@WisterWayne ignore your MIL. if things are going to get worse, even more reason to enjoy hols while you can.

if they take my fridge, where on earth am I meant to store my chicken that will last 5 days? in the icebox?

ive been already to florida and i'll be going again-just get on wit life or whats the point

your dcwill love it

I would book your holiday and go have a lovely time.

I don't however think your MIL is crazy. We live close to a US airforce base (in the UK) just a few years ago they where reducing staffing levels. Now they are massively increasing staff, and adding extra flight squadrons and for the first time in 20 years bringing back nuclear weapons (ones deployed by plain). This is a bit scary and it is all due to Russia, but I'm still hoping nothing comes of it and that they are just posturing.

I wouldn't worry about her fears but if the world doesn't end in the next couple of years and you are prepared to wait a bit longer they are actually building a new Frozen area in the Paris one!

Risk of war involving the US and us based on anything going on in the world right now is vanishingly small - neither Ukraine or Gaza present a situation (or are likely to) that would involve Florida!!!

If you were thinking of the Lebanon, even Israel maybe I'd give it a miss - but no, she's bonkers, go and enjoy Disney World!!

Right… 😮😮

Who the fuck is Pootin?
What is a nuke out?
What exactly has this Pootin chap done to show he is singling us out?

Op, go as from what I know, wars, big stuff oten happens out of the blue or stems from what is often perceived as no big deal

As I said, I do fear a misunderstanding but hopefully with the few we have had, EG missiles falling or flying over Poland, Russian and usa have their hotlines ready

"Posturing" is good but ther is a limit
Pootin is not a rational man he is a coward that will not hesitate to have killed many of his own people in the war or the the other side in order to retain power.
As it stands, it looks as though the russians are in a slightly stronger position than before

Chian is a worry, and this week or from today, china and usa are conding so-called training exercises near some disputed waters off china. chain also makes threats and flys warplanes near tiwan

However, one mistake will not lead to a nuke war unless they misread an ordinary missile being a nuke

Good example, the Turkey warned russia about its war planes flying over their borders when carrying out attacks in syria in support of the gov there. the turkeys army shot down a state of the ar Mig69 plane. Guess waht, Mr Pootin did nothing other than shake the Turkeys leaders hand

As I said before - lets send the leaders of russia, usa, england, france and their close supporters to the middle of a desert along with hamss and other terro groups and the israeli pm and let them fight it out in the open - i bet you none of the leaders will turn up in c hams leadrs that live in 7 star hotels

Have your hols, enjoy etc

TBH, i fear flying over, near russia and genrally that area as missiles are flying on an almost daily basis inc saudi arbians firing at the houtis as well as usa taking down missiles.

Therefore, florida is safer but if things move on, nowhere will be safe.

the more we watch the news, the more worrying it can become and some tv stations and some press oten bang on about ww3. The fact is no one knows and hopefully the americans, the rusians, the chinas and the brit govs can keep wars going in other countries as they do with suppling bombs and missiles to one side or another as these counties have a massive arms industry

Happy hols

Whats your opinion on the naval exceices betwen usa and china at the same time in waters, right of way past some island chain and china regularly making threats to tiwan?

some context below

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-says-patrolled-south-china-sea-apparent-response-us-naval-drills-rcna146755

Pootin😂...... says it all

Ignore the long winded dribble and have a holiday of a lifetime

op, Have you had a look into the fast passes that would be my biggest concern

Jesus Christ

I'm sure this poster is actually a man tbh

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator is there a reason you can't spell whilst on full rant?

If there is a war with Russia it will be nuclear so I don't think savings are going to help much.

You may as well enjoy the holiday as it will give you something great to look back on.

fucking nuts

but I am an expert in common sense knowledge

Having seen some of your other threads @DistinguishedSocialCommentator I would have to disagree!!

And it's Putin. My 9 year old calls him Pootin.....but you know, he's a child and likes to say the word poo.

I'm sure this poster is actually a man tbh

Glad I'm not the only one getting male vibes here and on other threads.

I've no idea whether it's a man and don't much care. They're posting self important drivel whatever sex they are.

His tin foil hat keeps slipping over his eyes 🤷‍♀️

Contemplating the risk that we'll have to put up with Donald Trump for 4 more years may well come between your points 4 and 5 @RedToothBrush

See point 2.

Surely being on the verge of a world war is all the more reason to go on a "lovely "holiday?