Why are you still up?

[Somethinggenericandforgettable]

Why are you still awake or up?

For me, I've a family member threatening to discharge themselves from a mental health ward. They aren't sectioned so they could leave. I'm hoping the doctor will talk them round when they are seen. Nurses have said they might phone if he does leave. So it's impossible to sleep now.

@Newnamedillydally

drugs stash in bedside cabinet!!

I could tell when it got to 3 hours after previous does, it was dreadful. Only 4(x2) Panadol every 24 hours was hard to keep under control though.

Hope you feel better soon!

@Berlinlover

im sorry to hear about the cancer. I hope the chemo doesn't continue to create the insomnia for you. Let them know & they might be able to give you something with the chemo.

best wishes for kicking the bastard to the kerb!!

@whojamaflip

how are the twinnies this morning?? And Mum??

@BeastAngelMadwoman

at least you have an end date!!

and being up with feeding newborns feel totally different. Still exhausting, but there's a point to it, unlike insomnia!!

best wishes for the rest of your pregnancy, birth & 20 years of no peace!! 😁

@RudolfsLeftToe Are you even pregnant??

hope you're feeling better today!

Big hugs & best wishes/congratulations/ & everything else needed/wanted for everyone!

@Somethinggenericandforgettable have you spoken to them this morning? Everything 'ok'??

It's hard to say. They are still on the ward. It's 50-50 whether they will settle or whether things might escalate. I slept 4ish to 7ish

Thank you x

No! 😂 just still holding onto the trauma from the Sonia eastenders storyline!
I finally got to sleep at 4:30 and my stomach feels very tender and bruised today.

I hope they settle!

maybe you can have a nap later, hopefully tonight won't be sooo bad 💕

Nightshift never handed over to dayshift that there was a suicide attempt and that they tried to abscond. This is someone who lately has been allowed 2 hours unaccompanied in the hospital grounds per day. Thank goodness we called dayshift to ask if it was appropriate for them to be allowed out on their own. Dayshift said heck no, they'd no idea about last night. Presumably doctor has documented their intervention but you don't read patient case notes unless you've a reason to and certainly not first thing! I cannot believe how bad the care has been in some respects.

@Somethinggenericandforgettable

oh FFS that's totally unacceptable.

how old is your 'person'? What's the plan for when they get out? Could they move/be moved nearer to you?

It's not really about common sense. People who are in hospital on a voluntary admission still have the same right to privacy as anyone else interacting with the NHS in any other way. MH staff taking it off their own back to phone a relative because someone has discharged themselves wouldn't be any materially different from leaving hospital after an Op, and the ward staff randomly phoning a relative to pass on private details.

The concern is perfectly understandable, but staff can't always just do what they feel is the "right" thing because it's not within their right to decide what's best without consulting the patient. I'd get fired if I phoned a relative without express patient instruction.

@XDownwiththissortofthingX I'm point of contact for all care. It's come up a few times because communication is so inconsistent. SNs, DCNs and medical all know I'm point of contact and that the person has said anything can be shared. In fact that was reiterated at MDT two days ago. My concern was not about whether they'd call me at all. Rather, whether they would call my home number if they could not get through on my mobile. I understand what you're saying re confidentiality, I'm in the game too! Not MH though. Quite frustrating as the MH system seems so different and very opaque. It's also a different board which confuses things further.

They'll be coming here. It's daunting but that won't put me off.

I'm pleased for them.

i'm concerned for you. I hope you find some support & advice from organisations who deal with this kind of thing. People supporting others in your 'persons' situation. They'll help you to support with being responsible. You can't be with them 24/7.

look after yourself xx