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Jeffrey Donaldson

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Cafog · 29/03/2024 14:53

Is there a thread yet that I haven't found? Shocked to hear this news this morning about the recently knighted MP and leader of the DUP being charged with historical sex offences along with his wife. And disgusted at all those in a froth on social media who haven't even spared a thought for his potential victims.

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ChimneyPot · 29/03/2024 20:22

I understand there were different rumours about Jefferys behaviour before now but none of them related to the offences he has been charged withd

ColleenDonaghy · 29/03/2024 20:26

Yeah fair enough @Ruralrules , I've reported my post and asked MN to delete it. My point was that it may not be anywhere near as big a case as other posters are implying, and may well be a sorry tale sadly familiar to many. In which case it's much less likely that others covered anything up.

Treesinmygarden · 29/03/2024 20:32

ColleenDonaghy · 29/03/2024 20:26

Yeah fair enough @Ruralrules , I've reported my post and asked MN to delete it. My point was that it may not be anywhere near as big a case as other posters are implying, and may well be a sorry tale sadly familiar to many. In which case it's much less likely that others covered anything up.

I think you're right but sure who really knows anyone at the end of the day!

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

EmmaGrundyForPM · 29/03/2024 20:37

Quizine · 29/03/2024 19:07

They are described as "historical" offences, so the victims may be adults now, but were children at the time it seems.

Thank you for this, of course that may well be the case

powershowerforanhour · 29/03/2024 20:50

Ah remember those innocent days when Iris Robinson was shamed and banished in disgrace for her dalliance with a consenting adult (at least we got the Lock Keeper's out of it).

ColleenDonaghy · 29/03/2024 20:53

I feel like the word "children" was in the news stories this morning and then removed later when he was named but my memory is shocking so that might not be the case. I didn't take screenshots anyway!

Taytocrisps · 29/03/2024 21:06

In one way I'm shocked and in another way I'm not. There have been so many revelations about famous people in recent years. Nobody should be above suspicion.

Obviously it remains to be seen if he's found guilty of the charges. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. I wouldn't like to say anything that might prejudice a trial. But I'll be keeping a close eye on the court proceedings.

Treesinmygarden · 29/03/2024 21:09

Taytocrisps · 29/03/2024 21:06

In one way I'm shocked and in another way I'm not. There have been so many revelations about famous people in recent years. Nobody should be above suspicion.

Obviously it remains to be seen if he's found guilty of the charges. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. I wouldn't like to say anything that might prejudice a trial. But I'll be keeping a close eye on the court proceedings.

I always try to take that position but sometimes it's not easy!

Quizine · 29/03/2024 21:11

I wonder if the trial will be held "in camera" thus assuring anonymity for the alleged victims? I'm not sure.

ColleenDonaghy · 29/03/2024 21:29

Quizine · 29/03/2024 21:11

I wonder if the trial will be held "in camera" thus assuring anonymity for the alleged victims? I'm not sure.

I hope so if that's what they want. Sadly it just may not to possible to meaningfully preserve their anonymity but presumably they knew that. Hopefully they have lots of support.

BronwenTheBrave · 29/03/2024 22:26

Janedoe82 · 29/03/2024 16:25

It’s just unbelievable

It really isn’t.

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/03/2024 22:28

powershowerforanhour · 29/03/2024 20:50

Ah remember those innocent days when Iris Robinson was shamed and banished in disgrace for her dalliance with a consenting adult (at least we got the Lock Keeper's out of it).

I worry about Iris. Peter is not a good man and no one has seen her in a long time.Sad

Today's news was a shock to me. My thoughts and best wishes to the brave victim(s) who reported this. I hope you see justice.Thanks

VictorianChic · 29/03/2024 22:37

Such bravery from the women who came forward!

MeinKraft · 29/03/2024 22:49

NitroNine · 29/03/2024 17:51

For a wonder the Orange Order have suspended him. Maybe they’ve learned something from their usual policy of staunchly defending violent & abusive men.

And apparently he’s over here in London, presumably to avoid any “unofficial” justice being doled out. He doesn’t exactly circulate where he’d be recognised over here (unless you count “going to work”, obviously).

Unless/until the name of the 57 year old woman is published I think speculating may potentially get the thread yanked for legal reasons - things like that have happened before, so exercising caution is advisable, however obvious things may seem.

I believe it's part of his bail conditions to not be in contact with the woman arrested, so he'll be living in his London residence.

Ruralrules · 29/03/2024 23:05

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/03/2024 22:28

I worry about Iris. Peter is not a good man and no one has seen her in a long time.Sad

Today's news was a shock to me. My thoughts and best wishes to the brave victim(s) who reported this. I hope you see justice.Thanks

The treatment of Iris was almost Victorian in terms of her being described as mentally ill etc.
They seem to spend a lot of time in Florida and I do hope she's happy.
Looking back it's so odd how Peter Robinson did the TV interview about it all and she was sent off to a clinic in London.

HaileyBailey · 30/03/2024 01:38

Abhannmor · 29/03/2024 15:30

Quite shocked. It does happen in all parties of course. But innocent til proven guilty.

Why did you feel the need to say “It does happen in all parties of course”?

Superlambaanana · 30/03/2024 07:37

ColleenDonaghy · 29/03/2024 20:53

I feel like the word "children" was in the news stories this morning and then removed later when he was named but my memory is shocking so that might not be the case. I didn't take screenshots anyway!

This is the Belfast Live story which broke it by by reporting on a PSNI statement. It didn't mention names but now the DUP, Orange Order and JD himself have made statements confirming he was arrested, it's clear this was the same arrests.

So yeh, children. 🤮

www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/husband-wife-co-down-charged-28907532

Superlambaanana · 30/03/2024 07:44

I'm the one urging extra caution on posting here because the DUP are so litigious, so I'm going to word this carefully...

There's often talk about super injunctions in NI. Some people on twitter believe that there may be a number in place in NI relating to people in the public eye. Some SIs can be time-bound rather than indefinite.

Superlambaanana · 30/03/2024 07:45

Sorry maybe thats too cryptic. But I'm afraid to spell out what I mean more. Maybe some of you will get what I mean.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/03/2024 07:47

I think it's best just not discuss the specifics here at all. Nobody would want to derail the trial.

Avineromance · 30/03/2024 08:14

There are currently 7 super injunctions live here in NI. I'm not suggesting any are relating to what's being discussed here, just general information. You can make your own conclusions about this.

This is official information obtained from a question tabled in the NI Assembly on super injunctions and has been reported on in the Belfast Telegraph on 11th March, so it's public knowledge.

GreenSalon · 30/03/2024 08:23

@powershowerforanhour was the issue with Iris Robinson not that before the details of her affair were discovered, she had made homophobic statements? I think that’s why it get extra attention on top of the usual salient interest, political point scoring etc

Abhannmor · 30/03/2024 08:25

HaileyBailey · 30/03/2024 01:38

Why did you feel the need to say “It does happen in all parties of course”?

Because it does. As a republican socialist it would be easy for me to come on here saying ' oh well that's just typical of the DUP'.

But someone would soon point to examples in all the other parties.

Treesinmygarden · 30/03/2024 08:26

So little traffic on this post! If an English MP was accused of rape posters would be all over it…

Saucery · 30/03/2024 08:30

Treesinmygarden · 30/03/2024 08:26

So little traffic on this post! If an English MP was accused of rape posters would be all over it…

And the thread would be deleted because the more people post on it, the more people are going to get carried away and post things that could prejudice a fair trial. The alleged victim/s deserve the alleged rapist to have a fair trial, so that guilt (or otherwise) can be established.

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