Laurence Fox and Billie Piper

[TogetherNormanDouglas]

https://news.sky.com/story/laurence-fox-responds-after-ex-wife-billie-piper-claims-enormous-difficulty-in-co-parenting-with-him-13095462

Laurence revealing more stuff in that statement than perhaps he meant to.

TeamBillie all the way.

yupp, I walked a tightrope for over a decade, obeying court orders and trying not to set him off.

He writes self-pitying messages which they ignore. Why have you cancelled me he wails. They don't respond to say, well, you moved house without telling us. You defied the court order to pay for my education, you continually abuse our mother. You manipulate me into contacting you and then when I do, out of pity, your response is ''I suppose your imbecile mother took that blurry photo''.

My X will forever blame me for their lack of interest in him, but they just don't feel any connection to him. They do ''judge'' him for that, in that they know that it's the parents role to support and make accommodations. They see him as a man who didn't want a family, he wanted, ''pay per view''. He wants value back. Validate me!

People keep mentioning that he is 'refusing to give his child prescribed medication' so that makes him a terrible person.

I find those comments completely disingenuous. The 'prescribed medication' is an amphetamine. Many many parents and adults do not agree with this 'prescribed medication', he is not alone in that view.

What do you suggest when one parent wants to give this 'prescribed medication' and another doesn't? Who gets to decide?

There have been some really terrible cases with regards to children and transitioning when a parent (usually the father) objects and he has been cut off from the child's life for causing 'trauma'. I find that abhorrent, and LF may well be correct about the explosion in the use of amphetamine with children, it is not a clear cut case of that being best for the child - at the very least he is advocating for his child.

ADHD medication, that’s prescribed, that the family court has also accepted.

Are you pretending there is no controversy around ADHD and the medicating of children with amphetamine?

Ah, ADHD medication! Quite important context. ADHD isn't made up, but the medication is controversial. This is quite a common source of conflict between parents. One mother didn't want her child on medication, and she turned out to be right - change of school did the trick - he was just bored. Caused quite a lot of conflict with her ex, though.

LF is foolish and rather inclined to dramatics (the "nightmare actor type" :)), but these aren't straight-forward disagreements.

I’m saying the court has ordered him not to talk about the child’s private medical issues on Twitter - because he had - and that he’s ignored that.

It’s something that should be between the child, their parents and medical professionals. If the parents can’t agree then the court can become involved to decide what’s in the best interests of the child. It has.

That's not quite what you said....but ok.

I have sympathy for someone dealing with a court ordering a controversial drug be taken by a child and then being told not to talk about it.

Not to talk about it on Twitter.

@hamstersarse

I have sympathy for someone dealing with a court ordering a controversial drug be taken by a child and then being told not to talk about it.

He can talk about his concerns all he wants privately though.

He was just told not to share his child's private medical information on Twitter, which surely you agree is reasonable considering his personal Twitter account is known to be controversial, divisive and widely reported in the media?

I think it’s a real shame that these kids lives are being discussed by strangers on social media. Their parents should be protecting their privacy and keeping this between themselves and the court. The kids didn’t ask to have famous parents who have an acrimonious divorce. I really feel for the kids in this I really do.

Must be really embarrassing for the kid to have his ADHD diagnosis all over Twitter! That's for him to disclose to people if he wishes on his own terms. Like I said, LF is foolish and melodramatic.

The child.

It gets to a point where your child is old enough to decide whether they take medication or have a vaccination.

I knew what type of a man he is, when I saw the comment about stability continuing to elude her. I get the impression that women having autonomy is anathema to him - hence the fact that going to court is her fault rather than a result of him being impossible to coparent with.

@TogetherNormanDouglas

He comes across as pompous and highly opinated and smug 😏 attention seeker Mr know it all,
no wonder she divorced split up from him,

She outgrew him and that type of relationship,
and wanted better ect..

Perfect characteristics to become a Tory Mp 👌

saying that the way tories are it's easy to mistake them for any strongly slanted right wing party's that's for sure,

Yes. The thing MN are constantly advising other women to do when they are in relationships with controlling men, or simply because that relationship no longer enhances their lives.

Anyone can end a relationship for any reason. Isn't that the shtick?

When a woman does so, however, she's put back into her box sharpish.

It's a discussion forum. A discussion is what's happening. You can intepret this as a 'row' if you so wish, but anyone can see this is hyperbole. There are no ad hominem attacks happening here. I've simply disagreed.

This isn't one of those straightforward situations where both parties have benaved like arses and are equally to blame. The culpability is heavily weighted on one side here: his side.

When it comes to the nonsense put out by a still deeply misogynistic society - especially when it comes to childcare issues - it's helpful to challenge these things where seen. Elsewhere on the www there's an established narrative about secretive family courts denying fathers the right to relationships with their children, and about spiteful women - a complete generalization - who go all-out to destroy their children's relationships with their fathers in a way mostly detrimental to the interests of the children. Women are evil, nasty shrews. Even when their behaviour is outwardly faultless, they're expected to share at least 50% of the blame.

Why? Because they 'chose badly'. Because, after a decade, they've had the temerity finally to tell the media they don't much care for having their names constantly tied with their ex's slow-motion public car crash.

The spiel that women must constantly take accountability for men's behaviour is way beyond tedious.

I remember seeing them together on Gogglebox and their relationship seemed truly odd, almost like they were a couple. Ick.

This isn't a discussion at all, it's you misinterpreting everything I write because you have your own point that you want to get across! Why not just post what you want to say instead of replying to my posts accusing me of misogyny?!!? Maybe I would be more interested in what you had to say if you were being a little more reasonable and less argumentative.

Of course women shouldn't suffer because they've ended up with a poor choice of partner! We all make mistakes. Men are responsible for their own behaviour.

Marrying your cousin isn't illegal in the UK.

Even without any sort of sexual intimacy some cousins, same or different sex, are very good long term friends with one another so their closeness will seem odd to those who don't know others who are very close to their cousins.

It was pretty clear that their relationship was, at most, similar to that of siblings.