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KitchenSinkLlama · 16/03/2024 12:07

He strikes me as a revolting extrusion of a human being.

RightOnTheEdge · 16/03/2024 15:29

Ambertonix · 16/03/2024 10:26

There are two sides to every story, his, hers and the truth. I dont think we should automatically jump to Billie's side since she was a large componant in the breakdown of the marriage. Yes i can well believe that Fox would be difficult to be in a relationship with but i have absolutely no doubt that he is a wonderful father and only wants to be in their lives and what is best for them. No-one knows what went on behind closed doors so we shouldnt judge his fustrations.

We don't have to take Billie's word for it.
You just have to looks at LF's X account.
He posts his son's private medical information and refuses to give him prescribed medication because he says its poison.
He's been found to be in breach of a court order because he's been banned from posting about his son's private information on SM but still carries on anyway.
He blacked up his kids and put afro wigs on them to make a political point and then posted the photos all over SM.
He has also tweeted that he's happy to admit that he was off his head on coke 6 days a week while married to Billie and his children were little.

Do you think that's him wanting the best for them?
Your bar for a "wonderful father"must be shockingly low!

DippyDipped · 16/03/2024 15:37

This is obviously an excuse for a “hate thread” 🙄 about people ie Fox, you politically disagree with. So predictable really. Ah well there’ll always be haters ….

Personally I’m always interested in what the alternative right have to say and then make my own mind up.

I am not generally interested in C list celeb marriages either and think it’s odd (and a bit disingenuous) of OP to pose the question like that.

peachgreen · 16/03/2024 16:29

Personally I’m always interested in what the alternative right have to say and then make my own mind up.

Anyone who takes people like Laurence Fox seriously doesn’t have a mind worth making up.

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/03/2024 16:30

This is a thread on Mnet discussing co-parenting with LF.

If you're interested in what LF or any other Alt right person has to say about politics, check out their sites @DippyDipped.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 16/03/2024 16:31

FrenchFancie · 16/03/2024 06:28

I wonder if he was always this hateful (in which case WTF did she have kids with him?!?) or if he has turned into this Andrew Tate wannabe since they split?

i can imagine that you could have kids with someone, then they go all extremist and you’re wondering what the hell you’ve done!!

I know this is one of "those" posts, but DH worked with a guy who was at school with Fox, and he said he was an arsehole then too.

Maybe he charmed Billie into marriage and then she worked out what he was. Amazing she had two kids with him though.

TogetherNormanDouglas · 16/03/2024 16:40

DippyDipped · 16/03/2024 15:37

This is obviously an excuse for a “hate thread” 🙄 about people ie Fox, you politically disagree with. So predictable really. Ah well there’ll always be haters ….

Personally I’m always interested in what the alternative right have to say and then make my own mind up.

I am not generally interested in C list celeb marriages either and think it’s odd (and a bit disingenuous) of OP to pose the question like that.

Pray elaborate.

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Excited101 · 16/03/2024 16:57

He seems like an utterly awful excuse for a man. But she shouldn’t have been making public comments about him/parenting with him. It’s completely inappropriate and unhelpful for her children who are more than old enough to read it all and have it all said to them in the school playground.

I feel for her, but she’s gone massively down in my estimations for that.

Jffs · 16/03/2024 17:02

”I can imagine that you could have kids with someone, then they go all extremist and you’re wondering what the hell you’ve done!!”

This. Like Billy, I rushed into the relationship with my kids’ father, there are all sorts of reasons for that, but predominately he was offering me a family, and my own was torn apart when I was two when my mother left my father for a bipolar man who stepfathered me for the next 16 years.

Like Fox, who’s BIL is mixed race, my ex had friends who were Asian / mixed race.

Then one day he admitted he’d been out and voted BNP. I remember the horror I felt. He quickly backtracked saying it was “to give the tories a kick up the ass.” But the damage was done, as the daughter of a Labour counsellor, I could never forgive him. It became clearer and clearer the views he harboured were very different to my own.

I left when my kids were 1 and 3. Like Billie I’ve been locked in litigation for the past 12 years. Some men are unable to compromise, co-parent or do anything reasonable without litigation. I suspect my ex and LF are cut from the same cloth.

ChanelNo19EDT · 16/03/2024 17:12

He thinks the family courts are biased but I think they got the measure of him.

Reugny · 16/03/2024 17:36

Excited101 · 16/03/2024 16:57

He seems like an utterly awful excuse for a man. But she shouldn’t have been making public comments about him/parenting with him. It’s completely inappropriate and unhelpful for her children who are more than old enough to read it all and have it all said to them in the school playground.

I feel for her, but she’s gone massively down in my estimations for that.

He got them to black up and put their faces on his social media.

I think that would cause far more problems in a school playground and even with their school, than their mother's rather restrained comments.

Iwasafool · 16/03/2024 17:43

Excited101 · 16/03/2024 16:57

He seems like an utterly awful excuse for a man. But she shouldn’t have been making public comments about him/parenting with him. It’s completely inappropriate and unhelpful for her children who are more than old enough to read it all and have it all said to them in the school playground.

I feel for her, but she’s gone massively down in my estimations for that.

I used to have a friend who was always slagging off her ex infront of their kids. One day when the kids were with him I told her she should stop. She said why should she it was all true. I said the kids are 50% him and 50% you. If you say he is rubbish and he says you're rubbish what do you think that is telling the kids about what they are? She stopped talking to me.

I have adult children from my first marriage, one thing they have both said is that although they would have preferred us to stay together they really appreciated that they never heard either of us say anything bad about the other. We weren't friends, barely spoke but no need to be negative in front of children.

Iwasafool · 16/03/2024 17:44

Reugny · 16/03/2024 17:36

He got them to black up and put their faces on his social media.

I think that would cause far more problems in a school playground and even with their school, than their mother's rather restrained comments.

So they have the problem with the black up, maybe what she said is a smaller problem but do they need another problem? Is it in anyway a positive?

Reugny · 16/03/2024 20:07

Iwasafool · 16/03/2024 17:44

So they have the problem with the black up, maybe what she said is a smaller problem but do they need another problem? Is it in anyway a positive?

Her comments, Chris Evan's comments and what have come out of certain members of his own extended family comments, about LF are massively restrained.

LF is a well-known misogynistic and racist bellend.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/03/2024 20:12

I am so sorry for her having to co-parent with him. I don't think it was fully apparent how deranged he was when she had children with him - I imagine she is counting down the hours until they are 18 and she no longer has to deal with his shit.

Iwasafool · 16/03/2024 22:32

Reugny · 16/03/2024 20:07

Her comments, Chris Evan's comments and what have come out of certain members of his own extended family comments, about LF are massively restrained.

LF is a well-known misogynistic and racist bellend.

What has any of that got to do with children hearing one parent making negative comments about another parent? I think he's a waste of space but his children don't need to hear their parents view on each other.

Budalest · 16/03/2024 22:43

I think she’s going to regret saying anything in this interview to be honest. It’s just given him an excuse to spout even more bile at her. I get that it must be hard to stay silent but it was the best option here.

kittybiscuits · 16/03/2024 22:50

He'd make a great case study for a course to teach women about parallel parenting with an abusive cunt ex

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/03/2024 23:08

Budalest · 16/03/2024 22:43

I think she’s going to regret saying anything in this interview to be honest. It’s just given him an excuse to spout even more bile at her. I get that it must be hard to stay silent but it was the best option here.

LF is an odious, weasel faced, hateful scumbag. That's why he spews bile about BP and the rest of humanity. He doesn't need an excuse and Billie should not have to tread on eggshells for the rest of her life because of him.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 17/03/2024 09:15

ChanelNo19EDT · 16/03/2024 17:12

He thinks the family courts are biased but I think they got the measure of him.

Edited

But even after numerous times Billie has taken him to court he still has 50:50 access?
So that would seem strange wouldn't it if she accused him of x,y,z...

AlexaPlaySomeHappyHardcore · 17/03/2024 10:19

I was surprised that BP spoke publicly at all about what an arse he is. I wonder if she’s recently hit her limit? That, and their sons are older now, more aware of both parents actions and maybe they gave her their blessing. Maybe.

Fox might well love his children not as much as he loves himself most likely but that doesn’t mean he’s a good father. A good father does not behave in a racist way, does not black up his children and put it on social media. That’s just to start with.

Still, it must be difficult to be part of an acting dynasty like his and be so lacking in talent and charisma compared to the rest of the family that acting work dries up and he’s now basically a rent-a-bigot. In contrast, your ex wife’s career continues to go from strength to strength and is consistently working.

ChanelNo19EDT · 17/03/2024 10:30

How can he claim family courts were biased to mother if he has 50:50??

bombastix · 17/03/2024 10:34

ChanelNo19EDT · 17/03/2024 10:30

How can he claim family courts were biased to mother if he has 50:50??

Because people are not nice to him. He resents the idea he even had to make his case there. They should have respected him immediately.

I think Piper has been very restrained. Why should she have to account for this awful man; people thinking less of her due to a view that most reasonable people have come to anyway. I feel sorry for her and the children she had to share with this man.

westisbest1982 · 17/03/2024 10:42

Why on earth is she talking about these personal things so publicly? How horrible for her children.

Oh wait, ‘Saint Billie’ has a new film to promote.

delphi13 · 17/03/2024 10:50

westisbest1982 · 17/03/2024 10:42

Why on earth is she talking about these personal things so publicly? How horrible for her children.

Oh wait, ‘Saint Billie’ has a new film to promote.

Because she is relentlessly asked about it and has never replied until now. Unfortunately for her, people have taken her silence on his constant horrific spouting of shit and mis treatment of his kids over SM as her being in agreement with him and his behaviour. It's not really possible to maintain a dignified silence and have people interpret that in a positive way. If you read the article you'll see she barely says anything about it at all. All she has said is she doesn't want to hear about the stuff going on in the media about him. She asks people not to involve her, she resents people asking continually about her two ex husbands and that divorce should be an answer about how she feels in and of itself. She has said co parenting is very difficult which is true of how most people feel regardless of whether their co parent is an absolute bonafide twat as this one clearly is. She also said why don't you go and ask the in laws that are currently actually married into the family as they are likely to have a more interesting take as they are actively married in and involved. Ie she's not part of it anymore so stop asking her for quotes about it. So really she has said very little indeed and her basic gist is - please stop asking me about it, it's hard enough as it is.
Seems fairly reasonable to me.