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Kate's photo appears "manipulated"?

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Tulipsandpansies123 · 10/03/2024 22:13

Have just seen news saying that associated press have withdrawn photo as it appears "manipulated". V strange

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Lampzade · 11/03/2024 10:58

Mirabai · 11/03/2024 10:56

Personally - I don’t think she had anything to do with the photoshop. Any more than William took the snap. i don’t know what’s going on but it smells like bullshit.

Yep

SoupDragon · 11/03/2024 10:59

oiltrader · 11/03/2024 10:57

Not sure why you are being so aggressive?

What I was trying to say is that foreign media do not have the cosy arrangement with William that the English media do so they are more honest x

"honest" 😂😂😂

SoupDragon · 11/03/2024 11:01

Mirabai · 11/03/2024 10:56

Personally - I don’t think she had anything to do with the photoshop. Any more than William took the snap. i don’t know what’s going on but it smells like bullshit.

I think it's completely believable that she did the photoshopping. it was certainly not done by a pro! Far more believable than some of the ridiculous suggestions being bandied about.

Most people have edited their own photos for some reason or another.

minou123 · 11/03/2024 11:01

Dymaxion · 11/03/2024 10:53

@TheSnowyOwl They took the photo from the Palace’s Instagram.

Ah OK, I don't know why I thought it would be sent to the agencies ? Seems odd to take it from instagram, makes their role a bit defunct, because anyone can do that ?

No, you were right @Dymaxion

Some press agencies, like the BBC, lifted the picture from Instagram.

But other press agencies, like Associated Press, Reuter, Getty, Press Association, all waited for the official press handout from Kensington Palace. And the published what Kensington Palace sent to them.

That's why there is a confusion and different press agencies taking different approaches whether to publish the picture or not.

Janiie · 11/03/2024 11:02

What do those outraged by Charlotte's cuff or Kates blurry hand think has gone on here? Why are people so worried and upset, I just don't get it. It's a personal pic yes circulated publicly but not as if it was an official event that was being misrepresented or something.

Poor Reuters and their pals. Imagine making tits of yourself like this in public.

CapybaraBara · 11/03/2024 11:02

Mirabai · 11/03/2024 10:56

Personally - I don’t think she had anything to do with the photoshop. Any more than William took the snap. i don’t know what’s going on but it smells like bullshit.

I'm inclined to believe the theory from Tiktok (account Allyn Aston) that it was a manipulated image taken last November. They tacked on a few white lies about the date in hopes it would satisfy the public. It would have been relatively positive PR and then faded down after a week or so. But they didn't count with the "kill order" which completely changed the narrative and they're terrified that the true level of image manipulation would come out. So they had Kate take the blame, maybe it was her idea as well, which will end the episode and shut down further speculation.

LoreleiG · 11/03/2024 11:02

Mirabai · 11/03/2024 10:56

Personally - I don’t think she had anything to do with the photoshop. Any more than William took the snap. i don’t know what’s going on but it smells like bullshit.

You need to get out more!

Franker · 11/03/2024 11:04

So William took the photo and Kate photoshopped stuff on it? O-kay.

The story is still about the press agencies here. They wouldn't have dropped a kill order for nothing. The photo must still amount to misreporting, and that's not about a kid's sleeve.

KP were crazy to do this.

ColleenDonaghy · 11/03/2024 11:04

Phillippeflop · 11/03/2024 10:57

i don’t understand why they didn’t stick with their original stance of - Kate is poorly and recovering and will not be seen until after Easter. They shouldn’t have moved from this.

this photo that is obviously doctored (doubtfully by Kate imo) has caused so much hassle for them. They didn’t need it to happen.

My view too. I presume it was altered as she is self conscious about her appearance right now, but in that case there was no need to release a picture.

It's not great, like.

Deardoofus · 11/03/2024 11:04

CapybaraBara · 11/03/2024 10:55

I feel Kate is taking the fall for the image. Maybe William hit the roof and they realised the only way the whole thing will die down is if Kate takes personal responsibility because she's the person at the centre of it all.

Find it hard to believe that after so many decades as one of the most famous people on the planet and getting photographed for a living, she doesn't have an inkling of what images can be released via news agencies. And that nobody from the PR team or any of their personal assistants caught the mistakes while checking it over?

The image was definitely not just lifted from their social media. There was an extremely high-resolution version in circulation, probably distributed via AP, Getty, Reuters etc. The DM published an extreme close-up of Charlottes hand in a level of detail that's impossible to achieve from a social media jpg.

So Kate photoshopped it or used some photo editing tool. She is probably on some heavy pain meds due to the abdominal surgery and might be not as clearly focused as she would normally be. I also wouldn't be surprised if the world and their cousins literally hounding her and harassing her and her loved ones online, she may actually be experiencing extreme stress and possibly anxiety as a result of all that negativity aimed at the family. All this doesn't help with focused efficiency, does it? Leave this woman alone to recover so that she can return to her job in due time. People who are posting sneery comment after sneery comment, about an unwell woman who has had major surgery is engaging in online bullying behaviour.

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 11/03/2024 11:05

Quizine · 11/03/2024 10:50

I am reading the thread to find out what the fuss is about. I am sincerely honest when I say I just saw a pic of K and the kids yesterday and thought, oh that's nice. And forgot about it.

But I suppose I am not allowed to do that, I should be dissecting the pic for every nuance and fault.

I have zero time for the RF btw. So maybe I am just not interested enough!

I am sincerely honest when I say I just saw a pic of K and the kids yesterday and thought, oh that's nice. And forgot about it.

I imagine that's what most people did, until the agencies pulled it. That's what interesting to me. Not even in relation to this picture specifically, but I (I imagine like most people, but maybe I'm just ignorant) don't really have much knowledge about how photos get circulated in the press, what checks/safeguards are in place, what it takes to remove a picture, what level of edits are considered acceptable, and the circumstances where that will happen.

Then for this picture specifically, clearly they didn't expect it to be pulled because otherwise why release it. But that in itself is interesting because you'd think they would know the stuff I've listed above about how it all works. So did they just cross their fingers and hope it would be fine because they really felt like they had to release something? Did they think they had enough influence to not have it pulled, is that even possible? I don't think it's anything nefarious (like some of the more batshit Twitter theories), but it's interesting to me.

sunglassesonthetable · 11/03/2024 11:06

Incredible that the Royal Press Office or whoever they are, are just finding out TODAY about Press Agency regs.

oakleaffy · 11/03/2024 11:06

Namechange25793 · 11/03/2024 10:50

For gods sake the woman has spoken and she got caught out with some dodgy Photoshop edits. Leave her be now!

With all the stupid conspiracy theories swirling around, the public won’t be happy until they release a proof of life video with her stating something current. Even then, some people will claim it’s AI!

They really can’t win, can they?

After this experience, I expect Catherine is reevaluating whether she wants to be part of this absolute circus. It’s enough to drive anyone into a mental health crisis. Can you imagine having to cope with this situation when you’re unwell. It’s just so inhumane and reminds me of the way Diana was treated which resulted in her death.

So sad.

Agree.
I met Diana at a work event- what stunned us was how humane and lovely she was - and extremely beautiful with her sapphire eyes.
She listened to the women's stories {a charity} and I thought ''Diana's such empathy''....no one knew then that she was suffering Bulimia or that she was suffering with her mental health.

Her death was a terrible shock. I couldn't believe it, had got back from a flight that night from Europe, and there weren't phones then, or internet for most of us-
A friend phoned in the morning to say ''It's a shock about Diana, isn't it?''

I didn't believe him.
He said ''I'd not joke about something like that- turn on your Telly.

And it was true.

It still grates when I hear Camilla referred to as 'Queen'.

Camilla clearly should have got married to Charles from the outset.

Diana should have married a kinder, warmer man.

People who seem to cope with being a 'royal woman are Princess Anne {tough and no nonsense} and Camilla - and of course, the Queen herself.

LoreleiG · 11/03/2024 11:06

Deardoofus · 11/03/2024 11:04

So Kate photoshopped it or used some photo editing tool. She is probably on some heavy pain meds due to the abdominal surgery and might be not as clearly focused as she would normally be. I also wouldn't be surprised if the world and their cousins literally hounding her and harassing her and her loved ones online, she may actually be experiencing extreme stress and possibly anxiety as a result of all that negativity aimed at the family. All this doesn't help with focused efficiency, does it? Leave this woman alone to recover so that she can return to her job in due time. People who are posting sneery comment after sneery comment, about an unwell woman who has had major surgery is engaging in online bullying behaviour.

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You are right it is bullying - misogynistic bullying at that.

Pumpkin314 · 11/03/2024 11:06

I can't be bothered looking into the whole photo being taken in November conspiracy theory, but as someone who used to be a family photographer it's very believable to me that William took a few photos and Kate photoshopped together the ones where each child was looking at the camera/smiling/had eyes open. 'Head swapping' is very regularly needed in portraits where more than one child is involved.

pootlin · 11/03/2024 11:06

Franker · 11/03/2024 11:04

So William took the photo and Kate photoshopped stuff on it? O-kay.

The story is still about the press agencies here. They wouldn't have dropped a kill order for nothing. The photo must still amount to misreporting, and that's not about a kid's sleeve.

KP were crazy to do this.

I can understand amateur photographers adjusting the light to make their photos appear better but moving around elements so much that hands are misaligned is bizarre.

GardenRoom · 11/03/2024 11:08

has anyone mentioned that she doesn’t have her wedding ring on? Would have thought that would be the thing that’s provoking most gossip. Understandable that if this picture is genuinely post op she might have swelling that means she’s had to remove her rings, but presumably if so the swelling to her face would also have been removed as her face in the photo is quite slim. Why do all the shitty photoshopping and not photoshop the ring back on, given the potential fallout from her not wearing it?

ColleenDonaghy · 11/03/2024 11:08

Quizine · 11/03/2024 10:50

I am reading the thread to find out what the fuss is about. I am sincerely honest when I say I just saw a pic of K and the kids yesterday and thought, oh that's nice. And forgot about it.

But I suppose I am not allowed to do that, I should be dissecting the pic for every nuance and fault.

I have zero time for the RF btw. So maybe I am just not interested enough!

I am no royalist, I find them very interesting but would vote to abolish the monarchy in a heartbeat.

I've been feeling sympathetic to Kate, and have posted on multiple threads here that she should be left in peace to recover.

The royal family releasing a photo that's been altered to the extent the agencies like AP, Reuters, Getty etc pull it is not a small, frivolous story.

It may have been done for vaguely frivolous reasons, such as Kate feeling self conscious (my personal bet, but who knows), but it's a big deal that goes beyond light entertainment interest in the royal family and to the heart of what we can expect from an image that we see in the news.

They've really gotten this wrong.

Seaweed42 · 11/03/2024 11:09

Like many of us amateur photoshoppers, you go in and twiddle with a bit of airbrushing, it goes tits up then you just try to put place back the 'original' chunk on top of the part you messed up.
because you want to keep the bit that you did edit properly.

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pootlin · 11/03/2024 11:09

oakleaffy · 11/03/2024 11:06

Agree.
I met Diana at a work event- what stunned us was how humane and lovely she was - and extremely beautiful with her sapphire eyes.
She listened to the women's stories {a charity} and I thought ''Diana's such empathy''....no one knew then that she was suffering Bulimia or that she was suffering with her mental health.

Her death was a terrible shock. I couldn't believe it, had got back from a flight that night from Europe, and there weren't phones then, or internet for most of us-
A friend phoned in the morning to say ''It's a shock about Diana, isn't it?''

I didn't believe him.
He said ''I'd not joke about something like that- turn on your Telly.

And it was true.

It still grates when I hear Camilla referred to as 'Queen'.

Camilla clearly should have got married to Charles from the outset.

Diana should have married a kinder, warmer man.

People who seem to cope with being a 'royal woman are Princess Anne {tough and no nonsense} and Camilla - and of course, the Queen herself.

I agree. Camilla being queen is one step closer to abolishing the monarchy, there is nothing queenly about her.

Seaweed42 · 11/03/2024 11:10

There's numerous photos of her without her ring.
It's such a clunky piece I'd say she takes it off as soon as she gets home.

ColleenDonaghy · 11/03/2024 11:11

Janiie · 11/03/2024 11:02

What do those outraged by Charlotte's cuff or Kates blurry hand think has gone on here? Why are people so worried and upset, I just don't get it. It's a personal pic yes circulated publicly but not as if it was an official event that was being misrepresented or something.

Poor Reuters and their pals. Imagine making tits of yourself like this in public.

Couldn't give a shit about Charlotte's sleeve and I doubt AP, Reuters, Getty etc do either.

The story is "happy healthy mother appears with children for the first time since surgery". For those agencies to have pulled it, I'm guessing (from my position of complete ignorance to be fair!) that they believe there is some intent to deceive in the doctoring of the image.

Crackermuncher · 11/03/2024 11:11

It would seem that if William is taking the photograph and Catherine is editing, and both processes involved nobody else at all , that their decisions are currently being made in absolute isolation as a couple , with no advisors or professionals to check things over ? Surely they have some sort of press advisor to get past first who scans an experienced eye over pictures, especially ones that are obviously going to be scrutinised to death? Are we being asked to believe that William and Kate are sat there releasing photos, liasing with international news agencies, photoshopping, posing, dressing up , posting to Instagram etc with NO intervention or input from anyone else at all?

Janiie · 11/03/2024 11:14

ColleenDonaghy · 11/03/2024 11:11

Couldn't give a shit about Charlotte's sleeve and I doubt AP, Reuters, Getty etc do either.

The story is "happy healthy mother appears with children for the first time since surgery". For those agencies to have pulled it, I'm guessing (from my position of complete ignorance to be fair!) that they believe there is some intent to deceive in the doctoring of the image.

But why? It isn't an official event it's a family picture. Think the agencies take themselves a tad too seriously and have made themselves a laughing stock.