34 bodies moved from funeral home by police

[DrJoanAllenby]

This sounds horrendous.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-and-woman-arrested-after-34-bodies-were-moved-by-police-from-funeral-director-13092104?fbclid=IwAR3VpSwxkaCKWvb7U3APBTuMXvq5ZRD-htvvO3VJBPnGQzb6EKD5EobNJ00aemAXCo9AsWsN7prAlQiNwrV8gBXDDnByZQvpSQsusIws3RVyyVhTFVAMWAsEnFe_1bJUk

The people involved have been arrested but not yet charged which is why there are few details. Without any solid facts, I think it's unwise to speculate what might have been going on. It'll all come out sooner or later anyway.

All of this must be horribly distressing for the families though.

I don't think there's much of a need for organs that are dead

Oh good grief. 🙄

People used to rob graves for organs.

I'm hoping it's something like fraud or improper storage. I'd hate to think it's something similar to what David Fuller did 😔

If you're referring to grave robbers like Burke and Hare, they didnt rob graves for organs, they needed the bodies to give to surgeons who used cadavers for medical experiment/demonstrations. They then turned to murder as they couldnt get enough ready dead bodies.

You wouldnt get very far trying to flog a kidney which hadnt been kept functioning.

And the families who have lost loved ones who went/are there.

no they robbed graves for "surgeons" to study anatomy and teach students. organs don't work after death even when a person is an organ donator they have to be on life support and transplant under conditions.

I cant see what use organs from a corpse would be. You can't just transplant a kidney from a body that's been dead for days 😂

I don’t think some of these places are all they say they are. We had a grim experience with a funeral director last year. A funeral director that is nationally well known and has been on tv. My relative died & was stored at the company head office until the day before the funeral, when they were taken to the local branch for viewing. That day & the day after were red hot, humid days. The local branch had no cold storage apparently, not one fridge. You can guess the rest.

They could be getting away with all sorts as the dead don’t talk & the relatives are often too grief stricken to kick up a fuss.

My thoughts around the 3am call is that a burglar discovered way more than he expected during a break in and called it in.

No one robs a funeral home. More likely someone witnessed bodies being moved.

You seriously think organs can be removed from corpses and implanted in a living person??????

@penguinbiscuits sounds like you've watched too much crap TV...

But if they collect a body within a few hours of death would they be usable?

Indeed, I work occasionally for a friend who is an undertaker, most of the general public really wouldn't want to see "out the back", most people who have signed up for embalming really wouldn't want to see us aspirating their loved one, it aint for the faint hearted that's for sure.

No. Even people who die on hospital wards cannot donate organs because of how quickly the organs deteriorate once the person has died - it has to be patients from ICU only.

No, wouldn't be usable at all, in the past there was a market for corpses for teaching purposes and to obtain skeletons from for teaching purposes, the former was over by the mid victorian period and the latter by the early 70's, by which time most genuine laboratory skeletons were sourced legitimately from India (relatives sold the body for the skeleton)

There are flats above shops down Hessle Rd (the one they specifically mention first) and also a Petrol station on a corner opposite. Perhaps the staff member or a customer or flat resident heard or saw something and reported it and the police legged it round and caught them in action.

The poor deceased and their families whatever has happened!

From reading comments it also appears to be (one of) the red light district of the area so I doubt it's overly quiet....

I know the paper report states the police raced there at 3 am but they could have planned to go at that time to minimise any stress caused to clients and questions from passers by.

From 2005:

"The bones of the late broadcaster Alistaire Cooke, whose legendary Letter from America became one of the BBC's most treasured dispatches, were stolen shortly before his cremation, it was alleged yesterday."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/dec/23/bbc.usnews

If you search him on Facebook he's selling refrigeration units that run cool not cold and looks like he has old landrovers and bikes stored next to the walk in cooler.

I completely agree with this. Mumsnet seems very lax about allowing comments and often presumption of guilt while cases are sub judice,
I have reported previous examples but here it is happening again. Maybe a ‘contempt of court’ action from the authorities would teach Mumsnet about the law.

@firstfamhol

Having looked at their companies house records, I’d be surprised if they aren’t investigated and need a financial audit when you look through their accounts.

You'd hope so. But you'd also hope that they'd have been investigated by now by Companies House and/or HMRC because those accounts going back years are clearly incorrect, amateur and non compliant. HMRC and Co House are really losing the plot with not dealing with accounts/returns that don't comply, which in itself suggests lack of proper admin at the least (against Company Law and tax laws) and may point towards fraud and worse.

No, just grew up in Eastern Europe where it does happen. England is a safer country, but it's no saint.

(Btw kidney can function up to 36 hours; liver - up to 12).