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Sunak to make an announcement in Downing Street at 17.40

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Westfacing · 01/03/2024 17:20

Beth Rigby of Sky News says they've been reliably informed it's not going to be about a General Election, so what will it be?

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Yasai · 01/03/2024 21:45

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Only 20% of this constituency are Muslim/Asian if that’s what you’re implying. Stop kidding yourself that only Muslims care that a genocide is taking place in Gaza with Rishi acting as a cheerleader.

we are supposedly an ‘ally’ of Israel, yet we have to drop food and medicine to Gazans from an aeroplane - has the penny not dropped yet. This is fucking insanity.

Noicant · 01/03/2024 21:46

Silence1 · 01/03/2024 21:41

Feb poll, now only 24% of UK people believe that Israel's attack on Gaza after October was justified.
Only 13% polled thought Israel should continue it's military action in Gaza.

The Tory Govt is not representing its public on the Gaza issue. It it is not respecting democracy which is one reason why frustrated people march or vote Galloway.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/sympathies-for-the-israelis-palestinian-conflict

54% of people don’t know or don’t feel particular supportive of either Israelis or Palestinians.

Sympathies for the Israelis Palestinian conflict

Thinking only of the continuing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, do your own sympathies lie more with the Israelis or more with the Palestinians?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/sympathies-for-the-israelis-palestinian-conflict

Yasai · 01/03/2024 21:47

Livelovebehappy · 01/03/2024 21:31

I think the tide is turning. I definitely hear more people finding their voice now, and being more vocal about the shit that is currently happening in this country. And Rishi actually speaking out will make people feel that they can voice their concerns. I’m no fan of Sunak, but I’m pleased he said what he did.

The tide is turning but not in the direction you think it is.

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Noicant · 01/03/2024 21:47

Yasai · 01/03/2024 21:45

Only 20% of this constituency are Muslim/Asian if that’s what you’re implying. Stop kidding yourself that only Muslims care that a genocide is taking place in Gaza with Rishi acting as a cheerleader.

we are supposedly an ‘ally’ of Israel, yet we have to drop food and medicine to Gazans from an aeroplane - has the penny not dropped yet. This is fucking insanity.

It’s more like 36% and turnout was around 40%. I wouldn’t be surprised if he lost in November.

1dayatatime · 01/03/2024 21:57

@Silence1

55% of the electorate support capital punishment for multiple murders or a murder of a child, but it's never going to happen.
57% of the electorate supports rejoining the EU immediately but that's equally not going to happen.
57% also want a burqua ban, also not going to happen.

Democracy does not mean the public get what they want public want.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 01/03/2024 21:59

Yasai · 01/03/2024 21:47

The tide is turning but not in the direction you think it is.

Yeah, I feel a definite shift.
I've been saying it for ages, but have been uncomfortable with the rise in far right for a while now - it's been simmering underneath "reasonable concerns" on topics on here for ages and people have always poo pooed it if you brought it up.
Now the politicians are bringing it more into the open, I find more and more people are finally noticing and starting to speak out against it more.At one time you'd practically have been a lone voice.
Hopefully it is a shift and we get rid of them this time round.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/03/2024 22:01

I can't think how he can justify criticising extremism when he said nothing about Braverman, and dragged his feet on 30p Lee. 🤷🏾‍♀️

dandeliondandy · 01/03/2024 22:03

I was really hoping he would call an election....instead we got a damp squib, like tears lost in the rain...

Blah12345678999 · 01/03/2024 22:03

Dotty2dot · 01/03/2024 21:29

You mean the Muslim community?

Interested in what makes the majority of people in Rochdale anti-Semitic, asking for a genuinely informed answer so I can better learn and understand.

dandeliondandy · 01/03/2024 22:04

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/03/2024 22:01

I can't think how he can justify criticising extremism when he said nothing about Braverman, and dragged his feet on 30p Lee. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Or when he is claiming to stand shoulder to shoulder with a foreign government that includes the likes of Ben Gvir and Smotrich!

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 01/03/2024 22:04

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/03/2024 22:01

I can't think how he can justify criticising extremism when he said nothing about Braverman, and dragged his feet on 30p Lee. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Exactly

Dotty2dot · 01/03/2024 22:05

1dayatatime · 01/03/2024 21:37

@JessS1990

"That silent majority also doesn't seem to want to vote for Rishi"

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Agreed the silent majority will be backing Starmer who has also come out in agreement with Rishi's speech.

Who the silent majority definitely don't support are people that disrupt their everyday life whether that be Just stop Oil or Pro Palestinian marches or whatever. And they definitely don't want to vote for extremist politicians of either party who they see as anti semitic or Islamophobic.

Sometimes your safe every day lives need to be disrupted. Or do we all just lie down and accept every thing? .

Blah12345678999 · 01/03/2024 22:06

Noicant · 01/03/2024 21:41

Galloway supported Saddam, a man who actually tried to commit genocide against kurds and Marsh arabs. He thinks that having sex with a woman while she is sleeping is not actually rape. He is most definitely an anti-semite.

I understand that our MP’s are a shower of shit but he is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. I mean he really is the skid marks on the pants of humanity. My DH joked that Farage must be fuming that he can’t seem to get elected as an MP but Galloway managed to find useful idiots to elect him as an MP 5 times.

Yes, but I’m not sure ‘our’ politicians are innocent where saddam is concerned:

https://archive.globalpolicy.org/iraq-conflict-the-historical-background-/us-and-british-support-for-huss-regime.html#:~:text=US%20intelligence%20helped%20Saddam's%20Ba,strongman%20Abd%20al%2DKarim%20Qassem.

US and British Support for Hussein Regime

Global Policy Forum is a policy watchdog that follows the work of the United Nations. We promote accountability and citizen participation in decisions on peace and security, social justice and international law.

https://archive.globalpolicy.org/iraq-conflict-the-historical-background-/us-and-british-support-for-huss-regime.html#:~:text=US%20intelligence%20helped%20Saddam's%20Ba,strongman%20Abd%20al%2DKarim%20Qassem.

L1ttledrummergirl · 01/03/2024 22:10

30pflee was thrown out for failing to apologise for Islamophobic comments, not for the comments themselves.

Sunak, Dowden and every MP who has defended this is accepting of what he said.

Braverman, Badenoch are as bad and no action has been taken against them.

Liz Truss thinks that Tommy Robinson (BNP) is a hero.

How dare he lecture the country about extremism. He needs to start by looking in the mirror, and then at those he stands alongside.

Blah12345678999 · 01/03/2024 22:13

I’m wondering if Rishi reads this thread he’ll threaten to report mumsnet and its users to the police next… 🤔

LBFseBrom · 01/03/2024 22:21

Hellopello3 · 01/03/2024 17:51

Islamism is such a made up work. I'm surprised muslims aren't more offended by that word.

I remember some were, maybe 20 years ago, but I suppose people have got used to it. I don't like and would never use it and I'm not a Muslim

Dotty2dot · 01/03/2024 22:22

If people are voting for George Gallaway surely that tells you how fucked up British politics is right now,

Blah12345678999 · 01/03/2024 22:24

Rishi is out of his depth, and I think the majority well probably all politicians in high positions are just self serving, it was easier to hide in the past before the internet but not so much now, plus things in general seem to be getting worse not better for the general population in society 🤷🏻‍♀️

Silence1 · 01/03/2024 22:25

dandeliondandy · 01/03/2024 22:04

Or when he is claiming to stand shoulder to shoulder with a foreign government that includes the likes of Ben Gvir and Smotrich!

@dandeliondandy That's exactly what I was thinking. The irony!
Sunak - Galloway's a disaster, bring out the lectern but meanwhile Sunak stands with Ben Givr and Smotrich

justasking111 · 01/03/2024 22:30

Dotty2dot · 01/03/2024 22:22

If people are voting for George Gallaway surely that tells you how fucked up British politics is right now,

Also some European politics, never mind USA.

dandeliondandy · 01/03/2024 22:35

Silence1 · 01/03/2024 22:25

@dandeliondandy That's exactly what I was thinking. The irony!
Sunak - Galloway's a disaster, bring out the lectern but meanwhile Sunak stands with Ben Givr and Smotrich

And even some of the supposedly more moderate like Herzog have been photographed signing bombs to be dropped on Gaza and quoted in SA's case for plausible genocide!

dandeliondandy · 01/03/2024 22:39

This little podium stunt seemed rather OTT to me. As Beth Rigby said, it is usually reserved for big events like a resignation or to call an election and all we got was Roland Rat giving us a lecture!

Echobelly · 01/03/2024 22:41

I'm finding it quite scary to see the people here who seem to be falling for Sunak's distraction tactics to discourage people from considering the role of the government's incompetence and corruption in the problems besetting this country. If people are protesting more, maybe that's because there's a lot of stuff to protest about - admittedly not all this government's making, but often the problem is their inaction rather than what they are doing.

Dotty2dot · 01/03/2024 23:05

dandeliondandy · 01/03/2024 22:39

This little podium stunt seemed rather OTT to me. As Beth Rigby said, it is usually reserved for big events like a resignation or to call an election and all we got was Roland Rat giving us a lecture!

Behave your selves plebs. What about British values? Whatever the fuck they are? Doffing your caps to the Royals or something.

cakeorwine · 01/03/2024 23:07

What has this bit got to do with extremism?

"When these groups claim that Britain is and has been on the wrong side of history, we should reject it, and reject it again.
No country is perfect, but I am enormously proud of the good that our country has done.
Our place in history is defined by the sacrifices our people have made,
…in the service of our own freedom and that of others.
And when these groups tell children that they cannot - and will not - succeed because of who they are…
When they tell children that the system is rigged against them or that Britain is a racist country…
This is not only a lie, but a cynical attempt to crush young dreams, and turn impressionistic minds against their own society.
I stand here as our country’s first non-white Prime Minister, leading the most diverse government in our country’s history…
…to tell people of all races, all faiths and all backgrounds…
…it is not the colour of your skin, the God you believe in or where you were born, that will determine your success…
…but just your own hard work and endeavour.
We must be prepared to stand up for our shared values in all circumstances, no matter how difficult."

Because I believe that the UK is often not on the right side of history.
I believe that there are barriers in life and you can face hurdles through no fault of your own but people treat you differently depending on your identity.

I know that just because he was able to do well, it does not mean there are no issues. You can work hard but life can be rigged against them.

Does that make me an extremist?

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