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If Nigel Farage became leader of the Tory party….

110 replies

Diefrausagtnein · 28/02/2024 12:04

Would it help their electoral chances ?
Apparently there’s a rumour circulating that Tory MPs want to orchestrate a coup and replace Sunak with him as he’s seen as catnip to certain voters and would improve their abysmal chances of winning the next GE. If you’re a disillusioned Tory voter would you be tempted to vote for them with Nige at the helm ? And red wall Brexiteers, would it influence a return to Labour, either way ?

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nancy75 · 29/02/2024 00:19

Nigel Farage lost an election to a man in a dolphin costume, I really don’t think he’s the Tory secret weapon to winning victory

RogueFemale · 29/02/2024 00:22

LightSwerve · 28/02/2024 16:26

Why would he suddenly be more popular after Brexit than he ever was before Brexit?

If the Tories do this they're no longer the Tories.

Edited

The Tories haven't been Tories for many years. Not since many moderates were turfed out by Liar Johnson.

Meadowfinch · 29/02/2024 00:24

Not a chance. Most Tory voters are conservative (with a small C), they aren't rabidly insane. NF only got air time over Brexit because the electorate (red & blue) had been denied a say for 40 years, and that always ends badly.

When Liz Truss & KK got in to power, the majority of constituency Conservative parties were horrified and made their views known immediately & very clearly.

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RogueFemale · 29/02/2024 00:46

Meadowfinch · 29/02/2024 00:24

Not a chance. Most Tory voters are conservative (with a small C), they aren't rabidly insane. NF only got air time over Brexit because the electorate (red & blue) had been denied a say for 40 years, and that always ends badly.

When Liz Truss & KK got in to power, the majority of constituency Conservative parties were horrified and made their views known immediately & very clearly.

It was Conservative Party members who voted for Truss to be leader. Nutters voting for a nutter.

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 29/02/2024 00:54

It is scary. There’s a huge lump of middle-aged to elderly voters who have swallowed ‘it’s all the immigrants’ fault’ and are rabidly blind to anything other than ‘stop the boats’. They DGAF about anything else a given party will do, just that. They like Nigel, the same as Boris, because he’s posh, but speaks what they want to hear, a bit comical, but he understands Rule Britannia as gospel. Whilst they moan about the roads, the GPs, cost of living, lack of dentists, not enough police.

Oh, but look over there, at that immigrant - that’s the problem.

My shockingly racist and determinedly ill-informed parents would vote Boris back in as he landozed their dilapidated park home/caravan into oblivion. And they would let Nigel settle ruins on fire ‘but the immigrants’.

5 years until I can leave this pathetic little britain small b. It’s horrific.

Babla · 29/02/2024 00:56

No one in their right mind would vote for Farage

TheDogsMother · 29/02/2024 01:03

I'm sorry you have shockingly racist and ill informed parents and I agree that Nigel Farage would be the worst kind of nightmare. Do you think ageism has any place in this though ?

iwafs · 29/02/2024 01:03

I wouldn’t vote for him because I believe that right and left politics is poisonous and divisive. I would like to see moderate conservative and moderate labour people working together. Not extremists from either side. I hate extremists. And farage is extreme.

, but he is a good speaker and can be very funny and charismatic when speaking. So I think he would win quite a few votes actually. Plus he does have some good ideas (not brexit obv). For example he wants hospital car parks to be free.

tobee · 29/02/2024 01:20

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 29/02/2024 00:54

It is scary. There’s a huge lump of middle-aged to elderly voters who have swallowed ‘it’s all the immigrants’ fault’ and are rabidly blind to anything other than ‘stop the boats’. They DGAF about anything else a given party will do, just that. They like Nigel, the same as Boris, because he’s posh, but speaks what they want to hear, a bit comical, but he understands Rule Britannia as gospel. Whilst they moan about the roads, the GPs, cost of living, lack of dentists, not enough police.

Oh, but look over there, at that immigrant - that’s the problem.

My shockingly racist and determinedly ill-informed parents would vote Boris back in as he landozed their dilapidated park home/caravan into oblivion. And they would let Nigel settle ruins on fire ‘but the immigrants’.

5 years until I can leave this pathetic little britain small b. It’s horrific.

Why bring age into it? There's plenty of young racists around you know!

Meadowfinch · 29/02/2024 01:24

@DontLeanOnTheKeyboard Your agism is every bit as bad as NF's racism. You are just as bad as he is.

Think about it !

WandaWonder · 29/02/2024 01:25

I think of him as the younger cousin at a wedding where people humour them because there is no other kids their age around

I don't see it really

Turkishcoffee · 29/02/2024 04:13

an2knee · 28/02/2024 12:22

I think it probably would help their election chances, yes. But a Tory government with Nigel Farage as Prime Minister would be a nightmare scenario for me and be one of the final nails in the coffin for this country.

The man is a complete charlatan and populist of the worst kind. He cosies up to the working poor by tapping into their worst prejudices and does not care one jot about them.

He is a master of ‘look over there’ politics. He points the finger at some of the weakest and most vulnerable and paints them as unworthy scroungers. This is pernicious.

We need, in this country, to look back at some of the pointed fingers and realise to whom they belong.

We would do well to realise why they seek to make scapegoats and to distract us from a growing wealth divide and where the real problem lies.

Look up. Not over there. Not down on those who have nothing. Look up. It drives me to distraction that obscenely wealthy media owners lecture us about society and tax-avoiding corporations pretend their so-called values while actively undermining social cohesion and robbing us blind.

If only we could be a grown up, fair-minded society along the lines of the Scandinavian model. We need to be progressive. But we are regressing. It’s depressing.

Completely agree.

HappiestSleeping · 29/02/2024 05:45

Diefrausagtnein · 28/02/2024 23:45

@HappiestSleeping lets hope you’re not the only one !

I'm not sure where "hopefully improve" came from. Bloody predictive text is getting worse. I meant "hopefully unlikely".

Farage is an idiot of the worst proportion. He was another Brexiteer who didn't have a plan. How would he ever know what the EU was all about? He had the second worst attendance record. The only MEP who was there less was a disabled chap who couldn't physically get there.

The state of british politics these days is a joke. Actually, the state of global politics is a joke.

No strong leadership, no strong opposition. It is tragic. I can't believe I'm the only one who feels this way, I just don't know what I'll do come the election. I've spoiled my paper in the last few, but it's too important this time.

ShareTheDuvet · 29/02/2024 05:49

SnapdragonToadflax · 28/02/2024 16:22

Nah, I always knew he'd end up leader one day. I was actually surprised it took him so long. What a horrible shame for the country that we ended up getting him during Covid.

What a horrible shame for the country that we ended up getting him at all 😢

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 29/02/2024 06:24

Apparently there’s a rumour circulating that Tory MPs want to orchestrate a coup and replace Sunak with him

Now? He can't be leader of the Tory party, their rules state that the leader must be a sitting MP.
Not only is he not an MP, he's not even a member of the Tory party.

hattie43 · 29/02/2024 06:30

I don't think he'll become leader of the Tories, a prominent role in Reform maybe .
I think if he and Lee Anderson ramped up Reform they would get a sizeable Red Wall vote . Not enough to win but certainly to give the Tories a bloody nose .
The country has gone down the toilet and people want change ,

Goforitagain · 29/02/2024 06:32

hattie43 · 29/02/2024 06:30

I don't think he'll become leader of the Tories, a prominent role in Reform maybe .
I think if he and Lee Anderson ramped up Reform they would get a sizeable Red Wall vote . Not enough to win but certainly to give the Tories a bloody nose .
The country has gone down the toilet and people want change ,

I think this also

HappiestSleeping · 29/02/2024 07:43

SnapdragonToadflax · 28/02/2024 16:22

Nah, I always knew he'd end up leader one day. I was actually surprised it took him so long. What a horrible shame for the country that we ended up getting him during Covid.

What a horrible shame for the country we ended up getting him at all. He has a proven track record of being a liar going back decades.

It's like the UK took an intelligence test and failed. Twice. Once with Brexit, and then for a second time voting him in. 🤦‍♂️

MeAndStuart1981 · 29/02/2024 07:56

@DontLeanOnTheKeyboard
5 years until I can leave this pathetic little britain small b. It’s horrific.
Why wait 5 years, go now or are you locked up - any chance you can be let out of your institution earlier?

Nigel Farage won't become leader of the conservative party and they will not win the next GE because we need the next generation to experience a socialist government.

5 years later, the conservatives will return (without NF).

TheThingIsYeah · 29/02/2024 08:11

bozzabollix · 28/02/2024 22:57

They hide it behind a lot of hateful rhetoric, that’s what I’m referring to.

Migration has and will always be part of the human condition, good luck with stopping that.

Yes but a far right party would want turn that quickly into minus 700,000. To suggest the Tories, Farage, Reform etc are far right is laughable, when genuinely intolerant cultures are not only being allowed to grow in the UK, they're indulged.

Westfacing · 29/02/2024 08:16

He's not even an MP - having failed about seven times!

They can't even parachute him into a 'safe seat' as they no longer exist

It's just more lunacy from the Tories

2dogsandabudgie · 29/02/2024 08:20

I think you need to stop paying attention to daft rumours.

SeriousFaffing · 29/02/2024 08:27

TheThingIsYeah · 29/02/2024 08:11

Yes but a far right party would want turn that quickly into minus 700,000. To suggest the Tories, Farage, Reform etc are far right is laughable, when genuinely intolerant cultures are not only being allowed to grow in the UK, they're indulged.

@TheThingIsYeah But they won’t. They aren’t going to stop migration and anyone who thinks they will has a serious misunderstanding of economics and politics. They certainly aren’t going to magically increase the birth rate.

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/02/2024 08:31

Meadowfinch · 29/02/2024 00:24

Not a chance. Most Tory voters are conservative (with a small C), they aren't rabidly insane. NF only got air time over Brexit because the electorate (red & blue) had been denied a say for 40 years, and that always ends badly.

When Liz Truss & KK got in to power, the majority of constituency Conservative parties were horrified and made their views known immediately & very clearly.

Exactly. The Tory membership is quite different to Tory voters. I can see that the membership would put him in if the had the chance and it may get a few of the reform voters back. It would almost certainly lose the part of their vote which is switching to Labour and Lib Dem though.

Nigel’s biggest barrier is getting elected as an MP though. The Tories biggest problem is they are losing voters to the left and right. Nigel won’t help that even if they do manage to get him elected.

BIossomtoes · 29/02/2024 08:35

TheLeadbetterLife · 28/02/2024 17:12

This is a man who tried and failed seven times to get elected to parliament. Come on.

This. He can’t even garner enough votes to be an MP.

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