What happened in the House of Commons tonight?

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I'm struggling to understand what is going on and would be grateful is someone can explain to me in simple terms.

Why were Labour worried about the safety of MPs?

Why were the SNP unhappy?

Why were the Tories unhappy?

What's likely to happen next?

Are MPs who don't take a Pro-Palestinian stance really putting their lives at risk?

So he has single handedly saved hundreds of lives... so why do we have a police force 🤔 I know the Met are incompetent but surely they aren't so bad that the Speaker has to swoosh his cape?

He overstepped, and it's backfired in a big way. Although honestly, it's very, very sickening to see all this squabbling when thousands upon thousands are being slaughtered.

sorry to jump on your comment alone, because you aren’t alone in making this point.

ultimately, you’re massively wide off the mark and are missing a very valuable opportunity to learn a few geopolitical lessons.

Can you see the influence Britain and the US have on the world? Our word counts for a lot. Israel would have invaded Rafah with devastating consequences already had there not been international pressure. Too little, too late, but better late than never.

this conflict has opened Pandora’s box in a way we’ve never seen before - the Colonialism box, that is. THIS is why it is resonating so powerfully with so many people across the world in a way we’ve never seen before. Britain and the US are imperialist states. We are able to see the cogs of this machine in operation in real time at the moment.

of course a call for ceasefire is significant - we supply millions of pounds worth of weaponry and equipment which is financing this war. A ceasefire vote calls into question whether this should continue.

I really hope everyone by now knows the history of Palestine and the very critical role Britain played in the dismantling of Palestine.

StaunchMomma
Apparently Sunak knew there were a large number of Tory rebels prepped to vote to support Labour's ceasefire call, which could have triggered a vote of no confidence.

Really - where are they all hiding? How many is a large number?

No. Did I say otherwise?
What I said was having a split (and even a rebellion) about this issue is no reason to pretend Labour in government would cause chaos while ignoring Tory governmental chaos caused by multiple splits and factions. And there’s where the hypocrisy lies.

I thought that the topic was about how Starmer doesn't know what a kitten is and thinks that puppies can become kittens?

I've just been watching I player and the deputy speaker answering points of order yesterday .It's clear that what stopped 3 votes (as Hoyle says he wanted ) taking place was the Government withdrawing their amendment .

Is your real name Tory Pollyanna? Labour’s 26 points ahead today.

But the government amendment only existed in order that Labour's would not get voted on. When Hoyle made a mess of that plan there was no longer any point in the government's amendment.

A Scottish perspective.
The SNP motion should have been allowed to have 1 amendment- eg the government amendment.
This is protocol.
The SNP and much of Scotland including Scottish unions stand with Palestine and have called for a ceasefire.
The Scottish Labour conference approved a ceasefire just last week.
Keir Starmer has had many opportunities to bring a motion for ceasefire and hasn't. In fact Labour was whipped in November to vote against the last SNP motion.
But now having Sarwar and Yousaf on the same side on this issue is slightly awkward. All the talk about Labour threatening the SNP at the general election is thrown into disarray by this conference vote, because it's obvious that there is no independent Scottish Labour Party and now Starmer pressing the speaker ( or the speaker being an utter fool) makes the SNP look better, like a party who have solid principles both at holyrood and Westminster. Starmer looks like a bully and Anglo centric control freak.
That's a bad look for Labour.

So physical threats to MPs from Islamist groups are now affecting the course of Parliamentary process. That’s what we should be focusing on here, surely. If we have enough sense, that is. If not, it’s game over for this country.

I agree completely. But I think it’s more about the massive divisions in the Labour Party.

Tory Pollyanna 🤣🤣🤣

ismu what are the polls looking like in Scotland right now?

@IClaudine they've been consistently in favour of independence for a while, no matter what happens.

It will be interesting to see how the boundary changes affect Westminster, likely the Tories will collapse rather than a huge new vote to Labour, that's what's happened in council elections recently.

@kitfree1 but given that there was a labour amendment and that it was up for a vote ,why did the Tories withdraw their amendment?

Apparantly Tory sources said that their amendment was withdrawn partly because they did not have enough time or votes to get it through the Commons.

So why did they put it in the first place? I assume that they were expecting the usual convention of the Government's amendment to be heard first ?
I expect I'm missing something blindingly obvious .

He's right. We can't let mob rule dictate things.

I can't abide Thatcher but she'd never allow intimidation and threats to supersede parliament. What's happened to us?

Sorry if a really stupid question, I am confused as to why the SNP amendment wasn't voted on, is it because they walked out of the chamber ? None of the parties involved come out well on this.

Do these rent a mobs actually think UK have any say in the endless Israel/Gaza conflict? It's posturing bollocks.

Never mind parliament trying to kowtow to Islamist extremists, they need to feel the full force of the law.

Countries taking a stand is not "posturing bollocks". Have you not heard of the international community?

We've got endless problems of our own that we can actually do something about, deal with them for once rather than getting involved in an endless conflict. Particularly just to try and placate mob rule.

I am trying to find a clip of it. It was very moving.

It's not getting involved in an endless conflict. It's adding our voice to those of many other countries which will hopefully eventually result in something being done to stop the genocide.

@Violetparis the SNP walked out as their own amendment was not getting voted on and the conservatives walked away as it broke protocol although obviously they were going to see a split Tory vote so that served them well .
The protocol is that the opposition motion is tabled, it either passes or goes to the government amendment. Once two amendments are introduced if the first one passes then they don't need another vote