Have I been saying this word wrong my whole life?!

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Just heard the word "romanticised" pronounced with a hard c. Is that how it's said?!

Yeah that audio file is rubbish, I know.

I actually meant the bit where it says, using the International Phonetic Alphabet, how to pronounce it.

There is a bit underneath that decodes the alphabet too.

@arlequin , as I pp, You either hear it or you don't. I do.
It sounds like you don't.

To me, Wye, Why and High sound different. The difference is fairly subtle.

It doesn't matter. If you say wooping koff or hooping koff or whooping koff, people will probably understand. If you say cough as Coe or Cow or Cuff, they might not.

@Durdledore , the IPA doesn't cover everything.
There's no distinction, for example between two ways of saying a diphthong. E.g the different ways people might say new or you.

Probably best to leave it.

FWIW I say Lerner and Loewe as Learner & Low but a Loewe bag is a Lo-eh-veh bag.

Linguistically, it's aspirated, not expirated.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/377272/the-aspiration-on-wh-words

@EBearhug , I think I meant naice areas. Love that part of the world. Well spotted on aspirated.
Wales and Whales is just it.

@EBearhug Thank you. I didn't know the correct term, only that I do a barely perceptible puff when I use wh

I mean, yes you can totally write the difference between new and you using phonetic transcription but yes, let’s leave it. It really doesn’t matter. Beg to differ and all that.

I rather like the idea of a hooping cuff. Might be this year's statement sleeve.

I never know how to say Miu Miu, but I'm not that bothered. I'll wait until someone corrects me.

How should I say Baukjen. I think of it as Bowk (bow like in taking a bow) Jen like in Jenny, but I may be way off.

I asked in Maje because I didn't know if it was Mazh, Mazhey or My-uh. It's Mazh.

Gieves & Hawkes is Gheevs not Jeevs. I asked in the shop as a friend had laughed and said it was Jeeves. I now deliberately mispronounce words because the 'friend' always 'corrects' me.

Looking at the IPA list upthread, and about the hearing of different sounds, some will not hear the difference between the 'i' in 'ship' and in 'sing'

I agree about all wh words being aspirated in certain accents but whooping cough starts with a H sound

@arlequin Yes but not the way I say it - and hear people say it.

So I'm agreeing that it depends on your accent

I would say it the same as I would say "who"

I have just heard Jeremy Clarkson pronounce the word 'protagonist' with a j sound rather than a hard g (on TV) 😯 Surely that's not correct?!?

That's just weird.

@KirstenBlest Miu Miu is mew mew, rhymes with new. Short for Miuccia (mew-cha) Prada.

Baukjen is bow-ken (bow to rhyme with now and cow).

@AinsleyHayes , but Miuccia is Me-oocha not Mewcha
I'd say Mew to rhyme with Hugh.
Also new can be new, nyoo, noo

Why does the j not get a sound?

@KirstenBlest Do you speak Italian? There are very few true diphthongs in the language. There are regions where speakers might emphasise the /j/ and /u/ sounds but particularly in Milan, where Prada is from, you would hear /ju/ as a so-called false diphthong.

I don't , but I'm aware that there are dialectical languages and that regional pronunciations vary.
I'm happy to say 'mew mew'.