UK officially in recession...

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Latest stats released show the UK is now officially in recession (Office for national statistic data).

Gaslighting has started in the media by ministers to try to minimise that fact.

Isn't it time to face the facts instead and call a general election?

I know the picture is bleak and any new party in power will need years to try to sort out this mess but something needs to be done...

The UK's decline in the past few decade or so has really been dramatic.

Which would mean many very senior people across multiple companies would stop working. PIP allows many disabled people to work part time, which is the difference between them working and not working at all.

PIP allows many disabled people to work part time, which is the difference between them working and not working at all.

PIP is to cover the premium of being disabled. Means testing it would make it as secure and guaranteed as CMS payments as some partners begrudge the money. Another way to shit on women. If more were needed.

It is and for some having a disability means they can't attain their full earning potential

Not particularly 😂

Time to renationalise the utilities. Imagine what we could do as a country with all that Dosh.

I think another think the chief economist at the OBr said was that whilst most Eu countries had some fallback in employment due to health post covid they mostly recovered activity rates and the UK didn’t. This may be a problem with our healthcare system it may also be because I think during COVID the no requirement to look for work clause was applied to a lot more people.

I think there unfortunately comes a point where it no longer matters if it’s nice or kind if it is just plain unaffordable. I think thats what some posters are confusing. It isn’t a lack of empathy it’s the hard numbers, it’s not about what is morally desirable. I struggled with an anxiety disorder so I do know what it feels like working full time while trying different meds trying to get access to counselling etc. I’ve sat there before work naked waiting for the sweating and dizziness to pass so I could get dressed, go to work and earn enough money to pay my rent.

We have an aging population, we have a rise in the number of NEETS and economically inactive due to mental health problems. If we can’t fix that we are going to need very high migration to offset the lack of productivity of the current British population to carry on paying the bills. We have to decide which one it is. I don’t see this as a party specific issue it’s a UK issue. Many countries are facing similar problems especially with young people just dropping out of life for various reasons and ageing populations.

Thank you @Noicant i feel like you’ve grasped what I’ve said (and it isn’t about putting the severely disabled in workhouses 🙄). And actually you’ve made my argument far better than I have and I’ve written about 300 posts 😳

Frighteningly little. The education budget alone is £180 billion a year. ‘All that dosh’ indeed.

If they were very senior I doubt £100 a week would be the difference between them working and not working at all 🙄

Obviously it's not going to solve all the ills but it could mean bringing energy prices down, for example. But the Tories would rather give it to their mates. Personally I'd rather it was in the hands of the country than the pockets of a few rich folk.

Of course it’s relevant how other economies are doing how can people not see that ? Also how do you think a general election will help , who has the great policies to get us out of it, they’re all as bad as one another. Recessions come and go, its life
bigger issues in this country and society as a whole

Then you're clearly quite naive. It means they can drop a few hours to accommodate disability fatigue.

Yes or it could pay for a some taxi fares.

Depends where though. You can wait a couple of hours for a wheelchair accessible taxi in Birmingham.

True but not all disabled people need wheelchair taxis, and where we live you can book them for specific times so that would also work. It would pay for 4 journeys to or from work for my husband if he needed them. (He doesn't - it's just a taxi example). That's quite significant for some people.

You can't book them for specific times. You can try, but they won't guarantee attendance. So they are of little use for medical appointments (for example).

For environmentalists, the main reason is Birminghams Clean Air Zone which has trebled a lot of journeys.

But isn't this all part of the "back to the 50s" manifesto we're all signed up to ? Growing up I'd never see someone in a wheelchair. May those days return so we can all forget the disabled. (That's if anyone ever noticed in the first place(.

I look around me and see the state the country is in after 14 years of Conservative government - from the NHS to the crumbling schools to the pot holes in the road.

Then I read a post that says 'they're all as bad as one another' and I wonder how it is possible to think this.

The Tories, with all their expensive education, money, connections and links to big business, the media and the richest people in the world have had 14 years to make positive change.

Yes, we living in difficult times. I expect that is why many people voted for a party who promised 'strong and stable'. What a joke that has turned out to be.

In 14 years nothing has improved. NOT ONE THING. Nobody in 20 pages of this thread has suggested even one thing the Tories have done to improve the life of the ordinary man, woman and child in the street, the economy of the country or the health of society and the environment.

Are our aspirations so low that we accept this? That we roll over and let them kick us some more? Ok, no party is perfect but for heavens sake, something has to change.

Something must be better than this.

Again, if you’re very senior then you’d be on such a salary that £100 a week wouldn’t make up for dropping a few hours. They probably wouldn’t have to worry about dropping a few hours at all, financially speaking.

Interesting. You can book wheelchair taxis where my mum lives and we regularly do. Reasonable prices too.

Don't forget this poster regularly deliberately bats away the needs of regular disabled people. Strange agenda they have.

PIP is also a gateway to other help for disabled people, motability, taxicard, Freedom pass, disabled person's rail cards and bus passes, etc.

If you get £100 a week then you're getting mobility as well as care which gives you automatic entitlement to a blue badge. £100 a week is £400 a month which can pay for all manner of disability related equipment or go towards a motability vehicle.

You're naive if you think senior employees can't benefit from PIP.

Wait until she finds out David Cameron was able to claim for his son.

The beauty of PIP is it recognises disability is a great leveler regardless of income, and I hope it stays as a non means tested benefit.

Well said.

I didn't say you couldn't. I said you can try, but they won't guarantee it.

There have been occasions when the nearest "booked" taxi is over an hour away. And because all the drivers are self employed, they can simply clock off and leave jobs unfulfilled. So there's no certainty they will attend you anyway.

However, as we know, nobody wants to hear about the travails of the disabled. Not in real life anyway. And least of all the DWP who will happily slap a sanction on if you couldn't get a taxi to your interview. (They get bonus points for that, so they all aspire to it).