Cultural differences Scotland and England

[CauleyMacGlochlin]

So surprised to see on a recent thread that in England secondary school pupils are often not allowed out of school for lunch until 6th form, which Google tells me means 16-18. I'm gobsmacked. I've never heard of anything like this in Scotland and I've lived all over the country (grew up in Glasgow and moved around in adulthood)

I also recently discovered that English school pupils can't leave education at 16. They have to stay in education til 18 unless they have an apprenticeship.

Got me thinking about cultural differences between the countries that I've maybe been oblivious all this time. Any others?

Oh ye canny fling pieces oot a twenty storey flat
700 hundred hungry weans’ll testify tae that
If it’s butter, cheese or jeely
If the breid be plain or pan
The chances o’it reachin' earth
Are ninety-nine tae wan

Tbh, a lot of the Scottish things mentioned on here are also regional! I agree, I think that many are more about UK regional differences.

Och aye the noo!

(Except NOBODY actually says this…)

I see it on mumsnet and Instagram regularly, in fact, the lovely English poster on this thread said something like “what do you mean, please?”.

It’s just an observation not a judgement.

Or ‘Hoots mon!’

This is incredibly accurate, and hours of fun. It distinguishes very clearly between Scottish dialect expressions, to a very granular level.
British Dialect quiz map

I know quite a few non-Catholic families who send their children to Catholic primary or secondary schools. And Catholic families who have used a non-Catholic primary at least. Sometimes people are just choosing the nearest school/school with the best academic reputation/school with the best music department..... Sectarianism is an outrage but often seems to be pushed by a very small minority (eg busing "marchers" into an area for an Orange Parade)

I doubt they are from West Yorkshire

Yes, I know quite a few non-Catholic people who have applied for their children to the local Catholic school if they think it’s better than their non-denom catchment option.

Did I say anything about West Yorkshire 😂. I’m sure she said she’s from Essex.

We were very impressed with the accuracy of this. Many of my family have been raised in one area then spent large amounts of time living in another area(s) and this caught a lot of the regions.

I’ve never met a Scot called Toby.

Gap between poorest students and richer students attending Scottish unis ... getting wider in what sense? Their outcomes after uni or their family's household income when they start or some other measure? Scottish universities include a couple which attract more than their share of wealthy southerners (St Andrews and Edinburgh)

Aw I'd like to do this but you have to subscribe

My granny and therefore, my father always said/says tea (and me until I slid away what with over 15 years in London). Her accent and heritage is countryside NE Scotland (north of Aberdeen) and she was a daughter of a farm labourer. She was a nurse.

Lots of Aberdonians say tea in my experience. You’ll be awa’ for your tea etc.

Though you are right that it’s generally when “code-switched” to full Doric.

No, I don’t think so. Let me check.

That's in my head for the night now. Ah'm a skyscraper wean I love oan the 19th flair, ah'm no gaw'n oot tae play onny mair... 🎵

I do subscribe now, but I am fairly sure I did that quiz for free years ago, and that NYT have a number of free articles before you have to pay.

However I’ve sent you a share link by DM.

My best friend’s dog was called Toby in the eighties, does that count?

I remember bringing home a boy called Julian after I went to university in England, my parents were highly amused to meet one in the flesh.

this thread is a fascinating read especially as I have never had the pleasure of being North of hadrian's wall. just wanted to ask... are haggis farmed or are they hunted in the wild? I tried to find some photos of the beast, but Google was no help. can one of the kind Scottish mumsnetters kindly help me out with some photos please?

thank you kindly

That really is most excellent.

Haggis are both farmed and wild @therealcookiemonster though wild have a far superior taste and texture.

Wild haggis

@therealcookiemonster they are commonly found in the wild

I work with one

Oary! 😄 I grew up speaking fairly standard Scottish (English but with a Scots accent). In those days everyone was expected to speak reasonably at School. It was a struggle for those whose families used strong local dialect and associated grammar. Y’ken hen?