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When will the parents of the children killed in the Wimbledon crash get an answer?

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GotMooMilk · 05/02/2024 15:29

Sorry for the daily fail link. This story really resonated with me at the time as I used to work at St Georges and lived close to Wimbledon. It's been ages and those poor parents still have no answers.

What do you think happened? Before people say it's horrible to speculate and none of my business- I know but my kids are similar age and I feel heartbroken for them and you'd be desperate for some kind of closure.

Heartbreaking footage shows Wimbledon crash victim Selena Lau, eight, playing the piano at an end-of-term tea party before Land Rover smashed into grounds of school killing her and another classmate | Daily Mail Online

Wimbledon crash victim, 8, played piano moments before fatal incident

Selena Lau, who was a pupil at The Study Prep school in Wimbledon, was performing at a concert before the £80,000 Land Rover crashed through the primary school's gates.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13045957/wimbledon-school-crash-footage-selena-lau-death.html

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Radiatorrung · 08/07/2024 19:27

Although I can’t find that article now so maybe they had to take it down, I’m sure there was a thread about it.

DinnaeFashYersel · 08/07/2024 19:38

Mumof3iiiia · 08/07/2024 09:51

Why

Mumof3iiiia · 08/07/2024 20:32

Radiatorrung · 08/07/2024 19:22

It’s interesting that any images of he4 and her husband have been scrubbed from the web (he is pretty high profile career wise) but the DM still managed to find one and publish it!

Do you mean this one? web.archive.org/web/20240627184424/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13577187/amp/Pictured-Mother-three-47-killed-two-eight-year-old-girls-smashing-Land-Rover-Wimbledon-prep-school-epileptic-seizure.html

Radiatorrung · 08/07/2024 21:20

@Mumof3iiiia yes, that’s the one. I typed it into Google and the search results didn’t bring it up. Lots of other related DM articles did but not that one.

Lazytiger · 24/10/2024 10:11

I felt very sorry for the parents when this case was closed, but leaving them with unanswered questions.
Looks like they are flighting on for justice for their little girls
https://archive.is/pwWKq

TitusMoan · 24/10/2024 10:44

It’s totally shameful that this investigation wasn’t handled properly in the first place.

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 13:05

The Met informed the families months ago that they did not have the expert resources available at that time to carry out the investigation so it was delayed. Witnesses at the scene, including the school head who could have provided evidence as to the state of the driver, were not interviewed at the time and now, a year and a half later, the Met are appealing for witnesses. It's pretty obvious the investigation was flawed from the start and now, only because the families refused to be fobbed off, the case is to be reopened with what will likely be a lame attempt to retrospectively do the job including re-examining the alleged gaps in the medical reports of epilepsy when this should have been a priority at the time. It was obvious from the start that power was used to prevent the name and details of the driver from being released. Everyone wondered why we had heard nothing about her even months after the incident as it wasn't the normal course of events. The car she drove speaks volumes, the lawyer she used speaks volumes. I thought it then and now the investigation has been reopened I think it even more so now. I feel terrible for the poor families having to relive the horror all over again because of the passage of time. I don't think the outcome will change because the system is flawed, but I do hope, at the very least, it'll make people think twice before buying cars like these.

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 13:12

Why don’t you say what you mean @oldcynic ? You think the driver should be punished because she’s rich? Because she drove a car that you disapprove of? Because she protected herself and her children from the muck raking that you’re now indulging in?

mindthespace · 24/10/2024 13:26

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 13:12

Why don’t you say what you mean @oldcynic ? You think the driver should be punished because she’s rich? Because she drove a car that you disapprove of? Because she protected herself and her children from the muck raking that you’re now indulging in?

Protected her children? What about the children that died that day? What about the people who were in that school and saw the horror unfold in front of their very eyes. What about the trauma left behind?

I hope justice can be served for those poor parents.

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 13:34

Of course what happened at the school was horrific. But everything currently points to a medical emergency.

Sometimes awful things happen and no one is to blame, they are tragic accidents.

What possible good does it do to splash the drivers details and those of her DC over the daily mail along with hot and cold running commentary on her financial status as if that is some how means she is fair game.

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 13:37

“I hope justice can be served” what do you think justice should look like in the case of a woman who has has an epileptic fit?

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 13:50

I think Pegasus is putting words into my mouth. It was obvious to anyone who isn't biased that information we would normally be privy to was withheld in this case. As you said, it was a tragic accident, so what then did she have to hide? It's also her choice of how she chose to deal with the events after the incident. Shutting down the press, her choice of lawyer, going away just after the hearing in June. It all smacks of bad taste and being totally tone deaf to the pain of the families.

WindsurfingDreams · 24/10/2024 13:51

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 13:37

“I hope justice can be served” what do you think justice should look like in the case of a woman who has has an epileptic fit?

I am just guessing, but I imagine it is precisely that medical evidence that perhaps merits closer examination?

WindsurfingDreams · 24/10/2024 13:51

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 13:37

“I hope justice can be served” what do you think justice should look like in the case of a woman who has has an epileptic fit?

I am just guessing, but I imagine it is precisely that medical evidence that perhaps merits closer examination?

notanothernamechange24 · 24/10/2024 14:03

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 13:50

I think Pegasus is putting words into my mouth. It was obvious to anyone who isn't biased that information we would normally be privy to was withheld in this case. As you said, it was a tragic accident, so what then did she have to hide? It's also her choice of how she chose to deal with the events after the incident. Shutting down the press, her choice of lawyer, going away just after the hearing in June. It all smacks of bad taste and being totally tone deaf to the pain of the families.

What information was withheld that you think you should have been privy to?
Why do you think you should be privy to any of the details?
If she did indeed have a medical episode as stated then it's a tragic accident. But that does not make her a bad person or guilty because you or the family want someone to blame. Nor does having money or going on holiday equal being guilty. She is a free woman and allowed to try to move forwards.

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 14:13

Stop putting words into my mouth. This is of public interest, that is the way of the law in this country. Those with power can instruct a legal team to withhold that information, it's pointless denying it. Nothing I've said points to her being a bad person, that's a lazy response to what I actually said and what many other people feel. In the face of such a tragic accident but which she was responsible for, which is a fact, exercise some humbleness, exercise some consideration for the family. Instructing a lawyer with a reputation of gagging is only going to add to their pain, this also wasn't the time nor was necessary to use her wealth to get the best legal representation, totally unnecessary and in bad taste as she was unlikely to have been found guilty, and running away straight after June's hearing, again is totally tone deaf to the fact that these girls families can never get away from what happened.

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 14:14

not been found guilty, I meant.

notanothernamechange24 · 24/10/2024 14:58

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 14:13

Stop putting words into my mouth. This is of public interest, that is the way of the law in this country. Those with power can instruct a legal team to withhold that information, it's pointless denying it. Nothing I've said points to her being a bad person, that's a lazy response to what I actually said and what many other people feel. In the face of such a tragic accident but which she was responsible for, which is a fact, exercise some humbleness, exercise some consideration for the family. Instructing a lawyer with a reputation of gagging is only going to add to their pain, this also wasn't the time nor was necessary to use her wealth to get the best legal representation, totally unnecessary and in bad taste as she was unlikely to have been found guilty, and running away straight after June's hearing, again is totally tone deaf to the fact that these girls families can never get away from what happened.

I don't need to put words in your mouth you are doing it yourself!
Of coarse she is free to use her money to pay for the best legal representation she can afford! There is nothing wrong with that 🤷🏻‍♀️ people do it everyday. As I'm sure the families will be too. It's absolutely appropriate to pay for her own legal representation and use whoever she chooses. Or do you expect her to claim legal aid and get the tax payer to pay for it? Or no legal representation at all because she doesn't deserve it (in your opinion) because she was unfortunate enough to have a seizure?
And she shouldn't have to use a legal team with a gagging reputation because we shouldn't be naming suspects until they are found culpable- which she hasn't been. Look at what happened to Christopher Jefferies!
It's absolutely none of your business what her name is, how much money she has, where and when she goes on holiday or indeed what her medical history is!!! None at all!

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 16:32

Oh dear, what I expected, totally tone deaf and unable to understand what was said. Clearly pointless making a point to people who will never look beyond themselves nor ever have the sense to be able to do so even in the worst of circumstances.

oakleaffy · 24/10/2024 16:40

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 16:32

Oh dear, what I expected, totally tone deaf and unable to understand what was said. Clearly pointless making a point to people who will never look beyond themselves nor ever have the sense to be able to do so even in the worst of circumstances.

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She could well have had seizures before- and possibly kept quiet about them in case they affected her ability to drive safely?
Fitting and ramming a foot on the gas pedal while driving a heavy vehicle capable of smashing fences is a worry.

A terrible case but here people will take the side of the driver it seems.

LizzieBennett73 · 24/10/2024 17:11

The families must be hugely relieved that they've been listened to. What an unimaginable way to lose your children and the original investigation was a disgrace to the memory of them. I hope the families get more answers now though I doubt it will bring much comfort.

Radiatorrung · 24/10/2024 17:16

The Met informed the families months ago that they did not have the expert resources available at that time to carry out the investigation so it was delayed.

How is that even possible?!

Radiatorrung · 24/10/2024 17:22

A terrible case but here people will take the side of the driver it seems.

I was reading the other day about someone who drove 30 mph over the limit and killed someone but faced no jail time, killing people with cars has very low sentences. The thinking was so many speed, take risks and side with drivers in these incidents as a form of self protection. Baffling!

PegasusReturns · 24/10/2024 18:11

oldcynic · 24/10/2024 16:32

Oh dear, what I expected, totally tone deaf and unable to understand what was said. Clearly pointless making a point to people who will never look beyond themselves nor ever have the sense to be able to do so even in the worst of circumstances.

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You don’t appear to be making any point other than her name and those of her husband and children should be fodder for gossip mongers to be picked over along with every detail if her life and health with glee.

the case was closed because there was evidence that she had a medical episode and that it was the first episode she’d suffered so no suggestion she was not entitled to be driving.

are you really suggesting that seeking to keep her name out of the press and going on holiday shows a lack of humility? How? Is she supposed to wear a hair shirt for the rest of her life? To allow public scrutiny of her life and debate of her culpability, if she can avoid it?

You have no idea what diagnosis might have followed as a result of her fit, how traumatising it might be for young, how devastated she might be for the consequences of her medical emergency.