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Does anybody recognise this as a bible story

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EezyOozy · 28/01/2024 13:23

Long story but my 6 year old has told me that at school they heard a bible story that roughly went:

-There were goodies and baddies

-God told the baddies to kill the goodies… but there were many more baddies than goodies

-So the goodies threw “fire cups” at the baddies until the baddies got so scared that they had to kill themselves…..

Is this roughly recognisable to anyone?

(I will be taking it up with the school tomorrow).

I’m literally just looking to hear from anybody that might be able to give me half a clue if this is a Bible story? Or a bit of one ? Or possibly something she may have got mixed up ? (Although she didn’t know about people killing themselves as a concept until she got told about this , apparently at school)

Thanks

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Magnoliafarm · 28/01/2024 20:35

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 28/01/2024 14:14

Yes. And the other time, a woman who was a concubine left her husband / master & went back to her parents. He followed & talked her into going back to him. On the way home they stayed with a man, and the men of the city came demanding the stranger so they could have sex with him.

The man gave them his concubine instead. They raped her all night & in the morning she was dead on the doorstep. He chopped her body into 12 pieces, one for each of the twelve tribes, & started shouting about what a terrible thing they’d done.

Nobody seemed to think that this bloke was an evil bastard, although obviously he was.

Lordy lord i remember acting this one out at a primary school assembly, but they removed the rape and instead she was acting like a servant and they were beating her. This has brought it all Bach. The girl acting as her was crawling around the school hall on her hands and knees while we (dressed in brown hessian robes with tea towels on our heads) pointed at things she needed to do dramatically and pretended to whip her.

This is why I need to move away from the catchment area before my little one gets to school age.

TooFondOfBooks · 28/01/2024 20:42

There’s a reason the Bible has been banned in some US School Districts 😁 (Though the Utah ban was very speedily reversed, in unshocking news…)

That Club set-up sounds worrying though - I mostly knew child-friendly versions of Old Testament stories as a young child: Palm Tree Bible Stories & David Kossoff’s Bible Stories, plus the odd Children’s Liturgy worksheet. And that was in the context of being a Catholic child with Catholic parents & a mostly Catholic family (some put the Right Foot in for the Hokey Cokey instead but we love them anyway 😉); attending a Catholic school; in area with a large Christian population - even now [inner] SE London has occasional billboards, bus-stops & backs of buses advertising churches/warning of the looming apocalypse & urgency of salvation-seeking/generally bigging up Jesus & His miracle-doing antics.

At school & university I had evangelical Christian friends (most of whom were told by their faith leaders &/or senior members of their churches I was not a Christian 🙄) whose churches were very much about the fire & brimstone side of things. One year the invited speaker at the carol service started bellowing at the attendees that if they didn’t accept Jesus as their Lord & Saviour they were going to hell. Very festive 🤨 “Evangelical” covers a wide spectrum & includes some exceptionally dodgy set-ups as well as perfectly nice normal churches - & everything in-between.

There are so many non-horrifying stories to tell; & so many things they could do to “gently” evangelise & no more; that this just sets alarm bells ringing. Play “sleeping lions”; make lion puppets/masks/whatever; talk about being brave; read a version of “Daniel in the Lion’s Den”; don’t traumatise any children…

Definitely complain. If you can get the church’s details, try to find out if they have some kind of hierarchy & who to complain to there too. Can you contact your local Councillor &/or MP about the paucity of youth provision having resulted in this situation? I understand the small community/conflict creation issue; but it may be that they’re relying on that to get away with this stuff…

MeinKraft · 28/01/2024 21:22

I don't mind a bit of RE in schools but tell them to stop the Bible thumpers coming in.

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Shania7788 · 28/01/2024 21:51

Goodness! I went to a Christian school and we did not hear any stories of this kind. It was all Noah’s ark, Good Samaritan, st Christopher and things like that. It’s bizarre that violent murder/suicide was deemed appropriate for kids of any age at this club! And a bit of a random story to pick out.

I know the kids of some Jehovah’s Witnesses who were told that on judgement day the atheists (or maybe just non Jehovah’s Witnesses) would kill them in their beds. I would’ve been traumatised if I was told that as a kid!!

Hooplahooping · 28/01/2024 21:55

Normally they don’t dive too deep in to the Old Testament stuff in schools - all the rape + dragons is a bit too Game of thrones for 6yo usually. Is it a very religious school…? What flavour?

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/01/2024 22:30

Crikey, I thought Game of Thrones was racey.

BreakfastAtMilliways · 28/01/2024 22:40

I do remember learning about the Ten Commandments. Our teacher at the time (Sister Catherine - who was brilliant) pointed out to us that ’Thou shalt not kill’, ‘Thou shalt not steal’ and ‘Thou shalt not commit adultery’ were very basic rules for rough, tough, uncivilised tribes living in extremely unforgiving surroundings, and that the New Testament was a significant advance on that.

I have to admit, the Old Testament tales make the ancient Romans look positively woke.

Devilsmommy · 28/01/2024 22:44

IncompleteSenten · 28/01/2024 14:05

Yeah.
I am an omnipotent god who created the universe and has unlimited power.

I can do anything I want to. For centuries I have been a merciless, blood thirsty monster that smites and strikes you down for the sins of others and has fucking weird rules about fabrics and shit but I see that you've stopped liking that so here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to send part of myself down in human form. Please stick a circle of really thorny branches on my head, nail me to a tree and stick a dagger in me.

That way, I, an omnipotent god with the power to do anything, will no longer have to punish you for what your great great great great grandad did. Yes I know I could just have decided to stop doing that, what with the unlimited power and all but what the hell, one last hurrah. 🤷

PS - I'll still want the skin on the end of your newborn sons' penises though.

They're my trophies. 👍

PPS - you can eat crabs now. 👍👍

Excellent 🤣

hudpat · 28/01/2024 23:16

This is a Christian charity that have got funding to do an activity “lunch club” once a week on our school

Withdraw her from that. It's probably run by one of the more fundamentalist evangelical groups. It has no place in schools whatsoever.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 29/01/2024 00:00

EezyOozy · 28/01/2024 13:50

@MissyB1 thank you for your comment.

Forgive my complete ignorance, but is the old Testament more gory? Is that why it’s not talked about normally ?

Extremely so. At the age of 13, I thought I believed in God, so I thought it was my duty to read the Bible.

By the time I was halfway through, I'd lost my faith entirely.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 29/01/2024 08:24

Our teacher at the time (Sister Catherine - who was brilliant) pointed out to us that ’Thou shalt not kill’, ‘Thou shalt not steal’ and ‘Thou shalt not commit adultery’ were very basic rules for rough, tough, uncivilised tribes living in extremely unforgiving surroundings

I've always wondered if that's the reason for the food taboos - e.g no shellfish. If you were an Israelite leader you wouldn't want half your fighting men hugging the latrines when the Midianites were prowling.

And the commandments in that cotext are ' this is how you behave to each other when you're pulling together as a team.'

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