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Absolutely appalled by Kenneth Eugene Smith's execution

375 replies

Haunting10 · 26/01/2024 18:45

Appalled is too soft a word. I feel physically sick and angry.

What a sick world we live in.

I am against the death penalty. One person wrongly convicted and sentenced to death is too many. This particular case sounds like torture, and to use what the Nazis used on millions, its just disturbing on so many levels.

I keep thinking about it. But what can we do? I'm in UK, and expect any activism will be happening in US.

What will happen to the state of Alabama? Surely something must be done. This was not human.

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AlwaysGinPlease · 27/01/2024 13:06

Elizabeth Sennett. Stabbed and beaten to death for $1000 by the man some of you feel so sorry for. Two sons left without a mother.

I am amazed at the sympathy for a cold blooded murderer. He got what he deserved at the end. The pain he inflicted on his victim was no doubt far greater than his.

Absolutely appalled by Kenneth Eugene Smith's execution
LuluBlakey1 · 27/01/2024 13:16

JennieTheZebra · 27/01/2024 11:56

@LuluBlakey1 The point I am making, which you clearly didn’t get, is that people with serious mental illness aren’t fully responsible for their actions in the same way that children aren’t fully responsible for theirs. Yet you agree with the rehabilitation of violent children. Mentally ill people are ill. These illnesses are treatable with the right input-and even if not, you can’t hold someone culpable for an illness. It’s morally abhorrent for the state to euthanise individuals because they don’t want to pay for their treatment and support. Mentally ill people need more support not less.

No, they are not all treatable. And yes, some are responsible for their actions. I'm not talking about euthanasia for all severely mentally ill people- I am talking about if we were a country where the death penalty existed as a punishment for murder, and if they had been deemed fit and sane enough to live freely in the community and then planned to and murdered people, they should face that consequence like any other murderer. There are an awful lot of ifs there. It would be a minority of cases but I do believe they exist. And if there is no death penalty they should never be free again, no rehabilitation.

1975wasthebest · 27/01/2024 13:22

Was it cruel to stab and beat her to death?

Why are you asking such a silly question? @AlwaysGinPlease

AlwaysGinPlease · 27/01/2024 13:26

@1975wasthebest oh the irony 🤦🏻‍♀️

Anisette · 27/01/2024 13:38

AlwaysGinPlease · 27/01/2024 12:43

Do you know how long it took Elizabeth Sennett his victim to die? Was it cruel to stab and beat her to death? 🤔

So why should the rest of society sink to the same level?

ShortHairedCat · 27/01/2024 13:44

LuluBlakey1 · 26/01/2024 19:32

I have never supported the death penalty but I now think I would. I have qualms about innocent people, mistakenly convicted, but where there is no doubt, as in this case, I think for murder or severe cases of sexual abuse, or acts of terrorism, I would support it. I can see no sense in keeping these people alive or allowing them to live in prison with any degree of comfort for the rest of their lives.
I would include in that people like the bloke who killed those people In Nottingham and who was on the news yesterday and the one who pushed the little French boy off the viewing gallery balcony of the Tate. I am uninterested in their mental illness - they knowingly and deliberately murdered someone, knew it was wrong, have expressed no remorse and I see no sense in them being locked up for life.
I think shooting is the cleanest, quickest option.

Edited

I support the death penalty for what happened to those people in Nottingham. I know all the arguments but that’s how I feel. There needs to be a deterrent

RaininSummer · 27/01/2024 13:44

Anisette · 27/01/2024 13:38

So why should the rest of society sink to the same level?

An element of vengeance and also pragmatism as no chance of reoffending and no wasting time and money on a violent killer who does not deserve to live. Works for me .

Tatumm · 27/01/2024 13:46

Countries that still have and use the death penalty aside from the USA:

China
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Iraq
Iran
Singapore
South Sudan
Somalia
Egypt
Kuwait
North Korea

Comedycook · 27/01/2024 13:47

RaininSummer · 27/01/2024 13:44

An element of vengeance and also pragmatism as no chance of reoffending and no wasting time and money on a violent killer who does not deserve to live. Works for me .

I doubt it saves much money. People are often on death row for years... lengthy legal processes. I wouldn't be surprised if that costs more than just keeping them banged up for life!

1975wasthebest · 27/01/2024 13:48

AlwaysGinPlease · 27/01/2024 13:26

@1975wasthebest oh the irony 🤦🏻‍♀️

Where is the irony here? Your question was ridiculous and pointless.

Comedycook · 27/01/2024 13:54

AlwaysGinPlease · 27/01/2024 12:43

Do you know how long it took Elizabeth Sennett his victim to die? Was it cruel to stab and beat her to death? 🤔

Well duh. I mean this level of critical thinking and argument is really best left to the daily mail comments section.

No one thinks his crime was ok and no one is sitting here with zero sympathy for his victim

Daftasabroom · 27/01/2024 13:59

midmodmad · 26/01/2024 19:35

This 100%. Also the cost of keeping these violent murderers, terrorists etc alive is astronomical - just what is the point? That money could be used so much better.

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How do you know they committed those crimes

Daftasabroom · 27/01/2024 14:05

RaininSummer · 27/01/2024 13:44

An element of vengeance and also pragmatism as no chance of reoffending and no wasting time and money on a violent killer who does not deserve to live. Works for me .

And if the person waiting to be executed was a child of yours, who you believed to be innocent, would execution be work for you?

BIanc · 27/01/2024 14:37

Tatumm · 27/01/2024 13:46

Countries that still have and use the death penalty aside from the USA:

China
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Iraq
Iran
Singapore
South Sudan
Somalia
Egypt
Kuwait
North Korea

Map of countries with and without:

worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-death-penalty

furmap · 27/01/2024 14:45

What HE did was totally inhuman.

A perfect example of why the death penalty is correct in a few cases.

These silly, dangerous bleedin’ heart liberals.

Look at what he did.

He beat a woman to death ffs.

furmap · 27/01/2024 14:48

AlwaysGinPlease · 27/01/2024 13:06

Elizabeth Sennett. Stabbed and beaten to death for $1000 by the man some of you feel so sorry for. Two sons left without a mother.

I am amazed at the sympathy for a cold blooded murderer. He got what he deserved at the end. The pain he inflicted on his victim was no doubt far greater than his.

💯.

People defending him live in another universe. He’s worse than an animal. Lost his right to be part of society.

Imagine being beaten to death. For no reason. Well, for $1000 dollars.

Yet all these utterly silly middle class c. liberals are up in arms about it.

ChanelNo19EDT · 27/01/2024 14:49

Whether he deserved it or not, why him? why was he hanged? Aren't there thousands of murderers?

Anisette · 27/01/2024 14:50

PTSDBarbiegirl · 27/01/2024 12:34

He knew where he was when he commited the crime that carries that punishment. America is not civilised.

Well, yes. Still doesn't mean it's OK.

Comedycook · 27/01/2024 14:51

furmap · 27/01/2024 14:45

What HE did was totally inhuman.

A perfect example of why the death penalty is correct in a few cases.

These silly, dangerous bleedin’ heart liberals.

Look at what he did.

He beat a woman to death ffs.

Such purile arguments.

Everyone knows this.

No one thinks what he did was ok.

Everyone feels sympathy for the victims

Some people however find it deeply concerning that in a country like the US, someone was legally gassed to death.

ChanelNo19EDT · 27/01/2024 14:53

@furmap yes, but why him?

I'm in favour of a lot of things, chemical castration, tougher sentences for sex offenders, sentencing (even if short) for first offence viewing images of children, 10 years for any man who beats up a woman, previous crimes of a similar nature SHOULD be known to juries, you name it, you can bet I want to come down on it, but WHY THIS GUY? why was he hanged?

Anisette · 27/01/2024 14:55

furmap · 27/01/2024 14:48

💯.

People defending him live in another universe. He’s worse than an animal. Lost his right to be part of society.

Imagine being beaten to death. For no reason. Well, for $1000 dollars.

Yet all these utterly silly middle class c. liberals are up in arms about it.

FFS, why are people so hard of thinking? No-one is defending him. No-one is saying he shouldn't have been punished for his crime, including being locked away from society. They are simply saying that capital punishment should not be countenanced in any civilised society, and that this particular execution was utterly barbaric. If you're in the UK, happily you live in a country that shares that view about capital punishment, and it's certainly not a middle class fad.

If you can't exercise a basic facility for comprehension, you really shouldn't be characterising anyone else as silly.

Comedycook · 27/01/2024 14:56

Anisette · 27/01/2024 14:55

FFS, why are people so hard of thinking? No-one is defending him. No-one is saying he shouldn't have been punished for his crime, including being locked away from society. They are simply saying that capital punishment should not be countenanced in any civilised society, and that this particular execution was utterly barbaric. If you're in the UK, happily you live in a country that shares that view about capital punishment, and it's certainly not a middle class fad.

If you can't exercise a basic facility for comprehension, you really shouldn't be characterising anyone else as silly.

Agree.

I'm quite surprised at just how thick some people can be

dimllaishebiaith · 27/01/2024 15:32

Shockingly I manage to be both working class and against the death penalty

Who would have thought it, a working class woman able to have a brain and opinions of her own, which don't fit inside some fairly insulting class stereotypes.. 🙄

Comedycook · 27/01/2024 15:38

dimllaishebiaith · 27/01/2024 15:32

Shockingly I manage to be both working class and against the death penalty

Who would have thought it, a working class woman able to have a brain and opinions of her own, which don't fit inside some fairly insulting class stereotypes.. 🙄

Fgs, get back down the pub and start ranting about scum would you

HowDoTheyGetThroughLife · 27/01/2024 15:39

Justcallmebebes · 26/01/2024 19:19

He brutally murdered a young mother of 2 sons who he didn't know in a really violent way for $1000. He left those 2 boys parentless.

My thoughts are with the poor woman he murdered. I'm sure her death wasn't swift and painless either. No sympathy

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