Absolutely outraged! Train drama

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So my 16 year old daughter was on the train going to college, busy service so standing. She fainted (as in full on dramatic woke up on the floor fainted), we don’t really know why. A nice lady nearby stopped her hitting the floor and helped her. However, she says all the men on the train stayed in their seats and so she sat on the floor the rest of the way into the city. Not one man offered her a seat although one of them did comment that he hoped her journey home was quieter so she could sit down! She said there weren’t any women sitting down anyway and they all just… sat there.

In the general sense of human decency, what the actual hell?

@Iwasafool No. She was standing next to me by the doors. The 8 seats nearest to that area were occupied by suits. Is that clearer for you?

I commute to London and did so whilst pregnant and separately when I had a knee reconstruction. Only twice in my 9 months of pregnancy did anyone offer me a seat and one of those times was because a man suggested someone in the priority seat move. The people on the tube were great. I even sometimes asked for a seat on the train as I had bad morning sickness but was ignored.

When I was on crutches I had to get on a busy train home and the conductor came through to check tickets and went off to find me a seat. She had asked a lady to put her 2 year old on her knee and I had to suffer the muttering all the way home despite her being told that the terms of travel for kods who are under 5 is that they must move to their parents lap if their seat is needed

I do offer my seat when I see someone that might need it but it did backfire on me years ago as I commuted from the end of a tube line. I always got a seat and never sat in the disabled seat etc. She got on 3 stops nearer London by which time all the seats were gone and no one ever offered her a seat. I have up my seat almost every day for around 3 months as she seemed to always find me no matter which carriage I got on. I have also been shouted at for offering an elderly man with a cane a seat but not a s3emingly fir and healthy 30 year old. She told me she would have my seat and I pointed out I was only offering it to him.
I am always happy to ask for a seat for others if they don't feel confident enough and if I am standing too will often ask if they want me to ask for a seat.

So only the occupants of the 8 seats nearest the door were getting off?

Not sure if it applies to commuter trains but just thought it might be useful to know.

My husband is disabled and I contact the train company to reserve a priority seat for him and one next to him for me as he needs me with him. I used to just book the seat but due to people sitting in our seats I now book assistance so the train guard, or I think he's called the manager now, meets us and if someone is in the seat he/she turfs them out. They come back when we are getting off to make sure no one is blocking us in. Hopefully you won't need your knee doing again but if you do I hope it might help.

I think different companies have different procedures but I just phone and tell them the train.

When I was pregnant I lived in London and it was rare a guy would offer a seat. Once a woman with a leg in plaster was the only one who offered me a seat on the tube. Once a guy was really horrible to me because I asked. I wasn't showing but had pain and tiredness more at that point. He did have a can of Stella in his hand though. My DH would give up his seat though.

They did! It was wonderfully entertaining.

So sorry this happened to your poor DD! Hope she’s feeling better. Please tell her I am raising my three boys to ALWAYS offer their seat to someone who needs it, and ALWAYS to help someone in difficulty. I hope the universe sends some lovely things her way this week to give her reason to have her faith restored. 🌷

In the days when people read papers on the train, quite possibly.

It doesn't surprise me at all. I remember many years ago being on a train with those old fashioned carriages with long bench seats (one facing forwards and one facing backwards).

I was one of several people crammed into the gap between the two benches. The woman behind me fainted and ended up collapsed onto my back and shoulders. I was trying to turn round to help her but couldn't move.

No one with a seat moved a muscle until I shouted at a couple of them to get up so that she could sit down.

More recently, I used to have a long commute into London and often sat with a friend. We almost always got seats but there were always people standing by the next stop. I don't once remember anyone offering a pregnant woman a seat except my friend and me, both of whom were in our late 50s. We used to take it in turns.

Sadly, it was ever thus. In my early years of commuting , about 50 years ago, I was on the Central line one morning in rush hour. Very crowded carriage. We were stopped and I heard a man (down other ebd of my carriage) say angrily, "Well, if none of you are going to pick her up, get out of my way so I can".

I only did one journey on a packed train but I had serious hip problems and used to walk with a cane. Not only did no one give me a seat but when one became free, a girl made a bee line for it, pushing in front of me. I said “Really?” and she stopped and let me sit down.

That’s shocking, can’t imagine that happening where I live at all

Disgusting!

I used public transport every day while pregnant, I was huge, unsteady on my feet and severely nauseous the whole time, I had pregnancy related health conditions that meant I was in a lot of pain from standing. I was offered a seat once. The journey would have me permanently exhausted. I ended up going on unpaid mat leave as early as possible. In fact there was an elderly, very frail person boarded and everyone watched while I gave them my seat

It was obviously quite clear your husband has a disability of some sort if he was walking with a stick. These were all young, able bodied males. There's also a difference of having your husband there when your in labour compared to having him there at a routine check up.

You took my post way out of context. Obviously your very sensitive about your DHs disability snd that has clouded your thinking.

I once got sexually harassed on a bus and not one person did anything.

The guy was grabbing me and trying to kiss me, grabbing my boobs. And this was downstairs. I was making a lot of noise too. I eventually kept hitting him with my umbrella - it has a duck head so was quite effective beak end - and eventually he let go but I still ended up getting off the bus, whilst he sat there like a smug sex offending bastard. Even the driver did fuck all.

I have also had a guy aggressively harass me whilst I was with my tiny baby on the tube. We'd just come back from a hospital appointment He was shouting and right in my face, I genuinely thought he was going to hit me - my crime? The temerity to be on the tube with a baby in a Babybjorn at 5pm. Fucking WALL of silence from everyone. It took me months to travel on the tube with my baby again and I'm not a pushover by any means. Even if someone had just looked at me with sympathy it would have made me feel better.

What is wrong with people? I was raised to have manners. I wouldn’t think twice about giving my seat up for an elderly person or pregnant woman. If I see someone struggling, I ask if they need help. I always hold the door open for the person behind me. I don’t expect a medal I have always just assumed everyone else did the same but they don’t! A steady decline in basic common courtesy. Sad.

That is shocking. Any one fainting of any sex, should be offered a seat, by anyone what ever their sex. Only thing maybe they thought she was safer on the floor, just in case she fainted again. I certainly would have given her my seat. Hooe she Is ok now.