Sunak - created by AI? Thread 36

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I’ve taken the liberty again.

Old thread here..

Post a thread on here about going to ED or calling an ambulance and see how many people turn up to point out that people going to ED who aren’t actually dead yet is why there are huge waits. The messaging that has been drip thread through the media is pervasive. Royal College of Emergency medicine called the government out on this a few years ago but it didn’t stop.

RCEM pointing out that there were as many 12hr waits between Oct 22 and Feb 23 as in the entire decade preceding it didn’t get used to hold the government to account as much as it should have. And they’ve changed the way they count those waits since then so I’d guess the government excuse will be they are counting more accurately.

Having said that there was a medical incident on the bus last week and the ambulance was there in minutes.

@RafaistheKingofClay last time I was in A&E (justifiably for anyone getting ready to put their gammons worth in - ended up with a five day admission) a man was sent to sit and wait, with a neck wound bleeding profusely to the point of pooling around him if he stopped anywhere for more than a moment. It was only the outrage from other patients that got him swiftly taken through to the treatment bays (and hopefully promptly stitched up). I’ve also seen bed bays repurposed with the beds taken out and 7/8 chairs positioned so people could be treated.

It’s so weirdly juxtapositioned against the backdrop of a supposedly modern hospital.

Yep, certain people/media are happier to focus blame on those needing services rather than issues with the provision of those services.
It's determinedly lowering our expectations rather than questioning what's happening. And it's across every public service. Expect less.

I can think of 2 in the last week- the family annihilation in Norfolk and the sentencing of the guy from Nottingham today :(

@AdamRyan, yes that family was one that I was thinking of and the other was that poor boy and his dad (genuinely one of my biggest fears when dd was younger). Both were clearly designated as ‘welfare checks’ imho.

Mental health services & social care - two massively unfunded, under resourced parts of our infrastructure that go on to have an impact on a whole other range of services.

Someone I care about had a mental health crisis recently. Thankfully we're in Sweden and the response she got was incomparable to what's available in the UK.

She was in emotional meltdown and having thoughts of self harm so rang her local health centre one afternoon. The person who takes calls is a triage nurse. They spoke around half an hour and was promised a callback from the district emergency psychiatric team. An hour later they rang her and talked with her until she was back from the edge, giving her helpful advice on how to stay in control of her emotions. She was given a next day appointment with a doctor and a counsellor , who is seeing her twice a week, and a direct line to the hospital unit should she need help in the night (they said she could turn up on their doorstep unannounced if she needed to).

She told me that what got her through it was them all telling her over and over again 'we are here for you, you are not alone, there is always someone available to talk to' and they meant it. I'm so grateful for the support she received and it makes me sad knowing people going through the same in the UK are left to sink or swim.

Oh yeah, good point, that poor boy :(

@MrTiddlesTheCat im really glad your friend got the help she needed.

although that does remind me of another experience of trying to call 111 and the local crisis team number (from googling) for a friend in deep crisis and it literally just ringing out every time I tried it. They were telling me no one cared and there’s me desperately trying to reassure them that people do when the facts spoke for themselves.

I love living here but my god do I hate what’s happened to my home.

Describing

Matt Hancock - "weaker than a Nun's pis*"
Liz Truss - "about as much use as a Marzipan Dildo"
Suella Braverman - "Shitler"
Boris Johnson - "A fu*king clown"

Dresses up as pot plants, carrying a beer and with a cake for a child's birthday party

Seriously though. I hope your ok jwg

I called an ambalance today for a child with a dislocated knee. Told at least a 7 hr wait. It's a disgrace.

None of those things are wrong.

Sadly she didn't actual say those things, I missed off the #satire

But it is probably what she meant

Oh. Disappointing.

Jeez.

Not to sound all ‘in my day’ but it really wasn’t that long ago that kind of report would be outrageous, now it’s par for the course and you’re more likely to get commiserations heavily laced with ‘don’t even bother with 999, just get them there yourself’. I’m waiting for taxis and Ubers to start refusing fares to A&E. it’ll only take a couple of bad experiences and it’ll put them off through word of mouth.

forgot to add - I hope that child has been seen to now. Dislocation is awful.

And that’s before we begin to get to the fact that there is now sometimes a wait to get the call answered when you dial 999.

This must be costing lives somewhere down the line. Even if it isn’t immediate.

Just catching up. Hope @jgw1 is ok.

Last time I was in A&E with Dd we had a 10hr wait through the night. I talk to people and we were there with:
Two elderly people on blood thinners who were unable to stop the bleeding
One person with cellulitis who had been sent by their GP for intravenous antibiotics, they left untreated after seven hours
Person who self discharged, the hcp signing the paperwork told them to come back if the chest pain got worse. We had been their four hours at that point
One drunk who kept hassling a female patient about how she knew him, he apparently held a knife to her mate
One person in mental health crisis who claimed to have swallowed razorblades and had definitely put a bic biro under her skin, they were brought in by a police officer who told them to show them, while in the waiting room
One drunk driver who had crashed their car, you could smell the alcohol. They were taken through to a cubicle where they slept for several hours
One dislocated wrist
Dd who has since been operated on but was sent home without any treatment being told she would be seen in a couple of days. Her xray was clear, she needed an mri.

Nobody was treated between 10pm and 7am except the drunk who was given a cubicle. There were many other people I didn't speak to.

18 months ago FIL fell in the night and was heard shouting for help by neighbours who couldn't get in but called an ambulance at 6am. He had been discharged from hospital with metastatic cancer and unstable diabetes 4 days before. At 8.30 his carers arrived and called 999 again to say he was having breathing difficulties and they called us. DH was away so BIL went round (like us he lives an hour away). The ambulance arrived at 11. Then he waited over 2 hours l to be unloaded from the ambulance and in was in A&E just before 2. He was diagnosed with sepsis. He died 2 days later. When we got to the hospital mid afternoon there were 10 ambulances queuing to unload patients.

I've nothing to say other than that I hate this useless pocket-filling government and everyone associated with it who has encouraged and enabled the asset stripping of every socially necessary institution in this country. May every single one of them fry in hell. I'm sorry so many of us are having to endure this slow strangulation of our society. Post Brexit. Good innit?

That is horrific @countrygirl99.

So sorry to hear all these stories.

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