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Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 11:44

There is an article in the Times about the current school attendance crisis. It cannot be overstated how awful the attendance crisis is. Pupils, particularly disadvantaged pupils, are staying away from school in much larger numbers, and for more days than before covid.

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

It blames parents for keeping their children home when they have a minor illness or are slightly anxious about school.

It quotes Bridget Phillipson, Shadow Education Secretary as saying "If I were secretary of state, I’d be sending a very clear message to parents that every day at school matters, and that irresponsible parents who don’t care about sending their kids to school are harming other kids’ life chances, not just their own"

(Whereas current Education Secretary Gillian) "Keegan will expand a programme that gives children skipping school an attendance mentor who could drive or walk youngsters from their home to school in the morning or negotiate with head teachers on their behalf. She said: “Persistent absence is a hangover from the pandemic affecting schools around the world. Schools and the government cannot do this alone.

“Families play a big part in attendance and parents have a legal duty to make sure their children are at school. I know it can be hard to get children out of the door, especially when they are feeling a bit anxious or have a mild cough or cold, so we must rebuild the social contract between parents and schools and make sure everyone plays their part.”

While lockdowns are brought up, what is not mentioned is the utter state schools were in between lockdowns and after lockdowns. Children were being supervised in halls rather than being taught due to lack of teachers who were ill (and this is still happening now due to inability to recruit). Lack of teachers meaning that kids get endless cover which can be largely a waste of time. Children who are anxious about attending school are expected to get on with it while teachers who are unable to cope with the poor behaviour of students are signed off with stress. The experience of children in schools during and since covid can be extraordinarily shit.

Attendance is much lower in pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds. Child poverty is not mentioned - I was reading about a child who couldn't attend school because her mother needed to use the one pair of shoes they shared. Other children are needed to look after younger siblings while parents work because they can't afford childcare. How will this be solved by sending a car around?

But we also know that schools in disadvantaged areas are more likely to struggle to hire staff. What is the point in a child attending school when they don't have teachers? How will Keegan and Phillipson argue that one?

This bit is the most worrying:

"A Labour government, Phillipson said, would place more emphasis on absenteeism as part of the Ofsted inspection framework, with schools compelled to produce an annual report on attendance, off-rolling (removing a pupil without using a permanent exclusion) and safeguarding. Schools are required to submit weekly attendance records to the Department for Education but absenteeism does not have its own Ofsted criteria, instead falling under a broader category of “behaviour and attitudes”.
These reports would affect the Ofsted rating given to schools, which would also take into account the progress they have made in shrinking the attainment gap between disadvantaged pupils and their more affluent peers"

Linking an Ofsted grading to attendance will just doom schools in disadvantaged areas to low Ofsted grades at a time when Ofsted had just started to recognise that grading a school based on disadvantage was a bad idea.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

Bridget Phillipson: Parents must save lockdown’s lost generation

The shadow education secretary takes aim at absenteeism as a poll reveals that one in four parents don’t think their child has to go to school each day

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

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withthischoice · 07/01/2024 17:56

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Hereinthismoment · 07/01/2024 18:01

Sherrystrull · 07/01/2024 17:36

Schools were fully open September-December 2020. I don't understand anyone saying they were shut for a year.

They weren’t really fully open. Bubbles constantly bursting, staggered starts, masks on, it wasn’t school in a particularly meaningful sense.

MissJoGrant · 07/01/2024 18:02

Noorandapples · 07/01/2024 12:08

If every day matters, why have we had so many strike days, inset days, new bank holidays. It only matters for the school records. Not learning about the tudors for one day isn't going to ruin a child's education, but making them go in when they're unwell or not coping might. Maybe the schooling culture needs a radical change.

Inset days (Baker days, as they were known when they first came about) were taken OUT of teachers' holidays, not out of term time!

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Sherrystrull · 07/01/2024 18:02

I remember it well. However, to say schools were shut for a year is wrong.

forcedfun · 07/01/2024 18:06

Sherrystrull · 07/01/2024 18:02

I remember it well. However, to say schools were shut for a year is wrong.

Ours closed for a chunk of the autumn term too. I think that might have varied across the country but all our children were at home. And then closed again in Jan 21.

cardibach · 07/01/2024 18:07

isthisit100 · 07/01/2024 14:39

THIS

Why do you both think that’s happening in schools? Whose fault might it be?

Charlie2121 · 07/01/2024 18:13

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If they tripled then of course they wouldn’t be affordable however based on current prices and the trend of previous increases I can afford them for the full 14 years.

You can never mitigate all risk. Instead you need to take on board manageable risk otherwise you’d never do anything.

withthischoice · 07/01/2024 18:18

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Fifteenth · 07/01/2024 18:21

scalt · 07/01/2024 17:19

Lockdowns, combined with the sustained campaign of fear, certainly broke the contract between people and government; and then Boris Johnson spat on what was left of it, while he and his staff partied, and adverts everywhere proclaimed "look her in the eyes, and tell her you never bend the rules". This is one reason of many why some people will never respect government again, never mind education. The government showed again, again and again that they do not care about children at all, throwing them right under the bus.

I would like to see a campaign for de regulation so that this can become affordable for more people.

They manage in Africa and India. In the UK, a cheap private school is near impossible to set up.

Education is far too important to be entrusted to Government.

Newtoniannechanics · 07/01/2024 18:25

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 15:58

Lots of dissatisfied moaners around these days amongst adults too

Hmm, I'm not sure the teen mental health crisis should be described as 'dissatisfied moaners'.

However, if we have the lowest teen life satisfaction scores in the OECD bar Turkey, and kids are not turning up to school in droves, perhaps one should wonder whether the two are linked.

Absolutely! I couldn't agree more.

Charlie2121 · 07/01/2024 18:26

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I wasn’t earning £225k at 32.

I am not one of those people who always knew they’d definitely want a child.

Circumstances presented themselves relative late in life where I thought it might be a nice thing to do. Priorities change.

I wouldn’t have done it unless I had no mortgage and could afford the fees as I don’t want to be working for too much longer. I’d prefer to be free during all the school holidays.

greengreengrass25 · 07/01/2024 18:27

Turkey had an earthquake to contend with though

What is happening with our young people that makes them so vulnerable

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Newtoniannechanics · 07/01/2024 18:34

greengreengrass25 · 07/01/2024 16:32

I think so as well

Sometimes they need to step up. How are they going to get on outside of school afterwards

Often than not. They thrive once they have left school. Especially ND kids. Carol Vorderman was discussing this on LBC. She says her son thrived once he left.

I am a teacher. I love my job but have an ASD ESBA teen. I can see it from both angles. Its has been tough with and for my dd.
Teachers are trying but they are limited with huge classes and not much support.

It is a one size fits all education and it doesn't work for some.

greengreengrass25 · 07/01/2024 18:35

Yes you're right it definitely doesn't fit all

I think it is especially difficult for some boys in primary in class room settings

cansu · 07/01/2024 18:38

The parents who say
Well they have been on strike so why should my child attend.
It is his birthday and auntie x and her dog are here
He is over tired. He didn't sleep well.
He has a sore throat.
He is worried about x
My other kids are off so we are going to a theme park.
They haven't had snow for ages so I think it's more important they play with their cousins.

You would be amazed at the number of parents who kept their kids off on strike days when the school was open for business purely because they wanted to go out with family and friends.

They need to think
I don't want my child to miss the lesson that all the other kids are having today because I want my kid to learn as much as they can. It is not about parents vs school. It is about children learning.

Sherrystrull · 07/01/2024 18:42

I have children not sent in because...

Their parents would miss them
It's raining
It's cold
It's Friday
It's Monday
The car didn't start (ten mins walk)

soupfiend · 07/01/2024 18:45

How has this turned into a thread berating someone for the choices they made about when to have children.

Completely inappropriate and an attack

withthischoice · 07/01/2024 18:48

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Ponderingwindow · 07/01/2024 18:52

My child is labeled as poor attendance because of a chronic illness. An illness that is exacerbated by other children attending school when they are sick. A mild cold means something entirely different for my child. Most of these attendance initiatives make the situation worse, not better.

however, we are affluent and she is bright. We have no problem navigating the system to prove the absences are necessary and we are able to tutor at home so her grades do not suffer. Other medically fragile children do not have the same advantages and the schools are absolutely failing them.

at the same time, keeping children home because they are needed for childcare, because there are barriers to clothing, food, or other barriers to readiness is actual parental neglect. It may be driven by poverty, but it doesn’t change the fact that it is neglect. Unless the child is medically unable to attend (physical or mental health), parents have a responsibility to have their children be ready. If they need more help to make it happen, then we should give them more help. Maybe someone showing up to take the children to school would be a vector for that happening.

the mental health provision is also atrocious. We went private when our child needed help. The waits of weeks were still interminable. I know that isn’t an option for most families. There just isn’t time to waste with children. Years long waiting lists and setting ridiculously high bars for referrals is scandalous.

forcedfun · 07/01/2024 18:52

soupfiend · 07/01/2024 18:45

How has this turned into a thread berating someone for the choices they made about when to have children.

Completely inappropriate and an attack

I mean that poster suggested parents were negligent if they had children before they could afford private school for them all (and presumably a decent private school as there are plenty that are pretty rubbish educationally)

Shinyandnew1 · 07/01/2024 18:54

You would be amazed at the number of parents who kept their kids off on strike days when the school was open for business purely because they wanted to go out with family and friends.

My friend’s school had complaints about the strikes that it was unfair how it was always the same children whose teacher was on strike and it should be shared around so that their unaffected child could also have some days off.

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 18:56

Can people stop dragging a row from another thread to this one please.

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