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A thread for those of us who tried who have a career change but didn’t manage to

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123stay · 03/01/2024 22:54

I’ve considered writing this post for a while, and was finally inspired to do so by the thread about not being happy with where you’ve ended up in life.

Please bear in mind this is mainly a mental health and personal support thread, NOT a job hunting advice thread. Please don’t give unsolicited advice or tell me to update my CV or go on LinkedIn etc. I’m not interested any more.

The point of this thread is that when we’re hear about people having career changes, or studying or retraining to get a new job etc, we only hear about the successful ones. But I’m convinced there’s lots of other people out there who tried but failed.

After years of employers asking why I didn’t have a degree, I went and studied later in life. I did very well at uni, but was unable to get a graduate job because most employers just aren’t set up to deal with mature graduates, unless you want to be a teacher. I applied for so many things, went to networking events etc, the ones with application forms were too rigid for my non-traditional situation, a lot of employers want people with masters degrees now, and so many other barriers.

We’re constantly told that we can change our lives through education. There is a huge amount of privilege involved in telling someone that if you don’t like your job, go and get another one instead. It’s not that easy.

I still do the same type of work as before, because it’s all I could get. I just wanted to know that I’m not alone.

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wizzywig · 15/08/2024 15:06

I am a rogue 40 something that did change career. But I have now stagnated and am seeing the youngsters who have no caring responsibilities get their promotions and I'm the steady work horse. It hurts knowing that my lack of headspace due to juggling family and a job (very similar to social work), means that my promotion prospects aren't there. I'm now of the view that what I can control, I will. So I may do some self employed work alongside the main job

wizzywig · 15/08/2024 15:08

Thank you op for starting this thread. People have asked for job ideas: go for the probation service. Their training will pay for a degree. It's a tough job though

123stay · 15/08/2024 20:52

So many adverts everywhere this week.

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Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

123stay · 17/08/2024 13:01

Bumping this thread again. There’s too many adverts at this time of year and people need to know that it’s not all it seems.

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123stay · 19/08/2024 14:07

I’m not going to stop talking about this subject. It’s important.

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Sasannach · 19/08/2024 14:16

I'm sure it will continue to resonate with lots of people! That feeling of going from so hopeful to completely hopeless is devastating.

wizzywig · 19/08/2024 17:52

Like you need to shuffle back to your spot and know your place

marshmallowfinder · 19/08/2024 21:44

Hell, this is me. I'm 53 now and have totally given up with it all. I now work in a supermarket and just accept my lot. Depressing really, but there it is.

123stay · 20/08/2024 02:15

Sasannach · 19/08/2024 14:16

I'm sure it will continue to resonate with lots of people! That feeling of going from so hopeful to completely hopeless is devastating.

Thank you. Let’s keep it going.

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Halfemptyhalfling · 20/08/2024 02:43

I think it's all about networking nowadays. Friends of friends etc

123stay · 30/08/2024 06:18

Bumping again.

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mids2019 · 30/08/2024 06:50

Also pensions.......

it may be fine having ideas of career change but you have to look at the impact of change on such mundane but vital financial aspects of your old age.

BirdFeederFun · 30/08/2024 07:07

Oh gosh this thread is what I needed to read this morning but also so depressing.

I keep reading threads about people who wfh and have flexitime and where I now am a bit limited this would be perfect! But of course it's achieved when you're already IN a well paying job.

The types of jobs people say you can more easily retrain as - social work and mental health nursing are bizarrely ones I'm interested in in terms of personal interest and skill set (ex psychology teacher) but they are full time courses and full on which I can't manage.

I am 45 and people say you have half your working life left. I did have a good first degree, I learn things quickly. But I'm quote overweight and only have a record in teaching and now I do a (much) lower paid simialr role. I don't have the capacity to teach in schools now and want this mythicalchybrid/flexible job or really anything I can actually do.

Id love to retrain and follow a career path. I am just so gutted that what I did pre kids is it really.

And I'm terrified for my teenager that what she chooses at 18 will define her.

I am quite low today. I'd love to be able to get out of my situation and earn more - it seems many have a high earning husband (usually the husband) so a "little part time job" is fine but I want to progress.

2 of my friends are in senior roles, less client facing and part time hut again it's because they've been in their profession a long time...

I've felt such a. Failure not being able to relaunch. But I'm middle aged, fat and struggle with the pace of full time in person work.

I am feeling a bit hopeless

BirdFeederFun · 30/08/2024 07:08

@mids2019 one of my reasons to career changes was to build up a pension!!! I don't have many contributing years due to being very part time after kids.

BirdFeederFun · 30/08/2024 07:10

I'd really like to be an Ed psych. But the degree/training courses are 3 years full time and over 1.5 hours commute....

I feel so cross I didn't retrain 10 years ago but I had small kids...

BirdFeederFun · 30/08/2024 07:11

And yes this time of year i see 18 year old go off to uni and feel a bit sad that in 3 years they'll earn more than me and I cant seem to do anything about it. I'd love it to be me again.

wizzywig · 30/08/2024 10:46

BirdFeederFun · 30/08/2024 07:07

Oh gosh this thread is what I needed to read this morning but also so depressing.

I keep reading threads about people who wfh and have flexitime and where I now am a bit limited this would be perfect! But of course it's achieved when you're already IN a well paying job.

The types of jobs people say you can more easily retrain as - social work and mental health nursing are bizarrely ones I'm interested in in terms of personal interest and skill set (ex psychology teacher) but they are full time courses and full on which I can't manage.

I am 45 and people say you have half your working life left. I did have a good first degree, I learn things quickly. But I'm quote overweight and only have a record in teaching and now I do a (much) lower paid simialr role. I don't have the capacity to teach in schools now and want this mythicalchybrid/flexible job or really anything I can actually do.

Id love to retrain and follow a career path. I am just so gutted that what I did pre kids is it really.

And I'm terrified for my teenager that what she chooses at 18 will define her.

I am quite low today. I'd love to be able to get out of my situation and earn more - it seems many have a high earning husband (usually the husband) so a "little part time job" is fine but I want to progress.

2 of my friends are in senior roles, less client facing and part time hut again it's because they've been in their profession a long time...

I've felt such a. Failure not being able to relaunch. But I'm middle aged, fat and struggle with the pace of full time in person work.

I am feeling a bit hopeless

Probation officer training can be part time

123stay · 30/08/2024 13:30

BlastedPimples · 15/08/2024 13:20

I wish posters would state what sector they're in and what sector they're currently looking to get into.

Just a reminder that this is a mental health and personal support thread, not a job hunting advice thread. Some people have been so upset by their situation that they no longer wish to discuss the specifics.

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BlastedPimples · 30/08/2024 13:47

Sure but it could also help other posters reconsider their direction. And save them anguish.

BonnieBairn · 30/08/2024 14:09

Not me but my DH. He didn't do great at school which we now know is due to undiagnosed ADHD so he went to college and got a level 2 Btec. Worked in his chosen career up until 2020 so over 18yrs experience.

He changed job in 2020 to move to where I live as I have kids from a previous relationship and couldn't move to him. He is now stuck in the current role he changed to and despite applying for multiple roles in his old sector at a slightly higher level nobody is interested because he doesn't have a degree/HND/HNC. It feels like they are completely disregarding 18yrs of experience for a bit of paper that says he can do that job.

It's soul destroying for him to get constant rejections. We can't afford for him to go back to college/uni as need his wage. His job just now is secure, good holidays, sick pay etc but it's unfulfiling and I don't know how to help him get an actual interview.

123stay · 20/09/2024 13:44

Bumping again. I still believe in the importance of this thread.

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TheBeesKnee · 20/09/2024 19:28

I think you're spot on. I'm only 32 but I remember this weird narrative (weird with the benefit of hindsight, I lapped it up at the time) being pushed that what you needed was a skill set and you could pick and choose careers throughout your life! I bought into it, which is why I did a degree in philosophy and linguistics. It was hugely interesting but honestly nothing to do with my job.

I have ended up in a good job almost by pure chance. I've often wanted to leave but it's brutal out there + tough to even get an interview, never mind a job. Then there's the fact that everyone seems to be slashing budgets and cutting back staff. A woman in my antenatal group went back to work after maternity leave to find half her team were gone and she was doing work that had previously been done by 5 separate people.

BirdFeederFun · 20/09/2024 20:26

Gosh yes thats what I was told. "Do what you enjoy, work hard, get a good degree and the world's your oyster."

I was one of the top achievers at my Grammar school, have 2 very good degrees and have come completely unstuck.

givenup123 · 20/09/2024 21:22

Glad you’ve this a bump @123stay as I’ve meant to come back and give an update ….. so after my somewhat doom and gloom posts at the beginning of the year ….. I’ve actually done it. Managed to change into a different sector at an approximate similar senior level. Found a recruitment consultant that seemed to really believe in me and with his help have landed a fantastic job. He really helped me understand not just how to frame my transferable skills to prospective employers but also ‘de code’ what job adverts / descriptions actually mean and therefore what to apply for and what to not bother with.

So a good news story I guess ..still think it’s more luck than anything else but if you are lucky, it can happen so good luck to you all!

Doyouthinktheyknow · 21/09/2024 10:56

Congratulations @givenup123

I’ve sort of done it too, still within nursing but I’m taking a pay cut, dropping a band and going back to clinical work in a new field for me. I feel exhilarated and optimistic for the future for the first time in a while.

And I handed in my notice before I had even applied for the other job. I realised how damaging my job was to my mental health and decided enough was enough.