Saw an XL Bully puppy today

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And he was absolutely gorgeous. He was a gorgeous light tan colour with green eyes. Must have been about 12 weeks old.

I went over to ask if I can stroke him, owner was very nice but clearly drunk and took out a can of cider whilst we chatted. Puppy was so friendly but seemed flinchy with the bloke.

It's just made me really sad and worried for his future. I can't see this man complying with muzzle or lead rules. Or training him well really.

I was quite supportive of the ban but meeting one IRL has made me sad. That little puppy could be the best behaved boy on the world with the right owners.

Some people are to thick on this site to understand the affect upbringing has on there dogs, I was always strict with my old XL bully and she was "the sweetest dog ever" according to my son's reception teacher and loved being patted by all the kids at the school gates, yes she had the capability to bite, all dogs do but she chose not too cos I trained her well xx

How long ago did you have an XL as they are a recent breed or type.
Its not a case of being too thick as you put it to “understand the affect upbringing has on their dogs” but more a case of most being too thick to understand about genetics.

People have no difficulty believing the other dog breeds have breed characteristic instincts, yet when it comes to pit bulls/xl bullies there's an insistence that it is all down to training and upbringing.
Their breed instinct is to fight. They are incredibly strong and powerful, and most of the UK ones are horribly inbred and badly bred as well, and this from a line with a known bad temperament.

Bully Watch on twitter lists as many UK attacks, both against people and other dogs, as it is aware of, and it's not pretty reading.

They all start as cute puppies.

Give it a few months......

XL Bully’s have been around since 2014/2015 at least, as I say, the ones we have locally are not young dogs. They are recently appearing more in stats because, for whatever reason, they have suddenly become a status symbol or protection dog of choosing. More of them does increase the chances of there being incidents, and that increase in demand has led to back street breeders cutting corners to meet the demand to maximise their income- which is horrific and bad breeding contributes to many things.

@Mrsttcno1 yeah, yet weirdly there's no kill tally for say, Labradors, who are far more common than the Pitbull mutation. Obviously because the 'bullies' are inherently more deadly, aggressive and dangerous due to their genes. 🥴

Exactly this.
Some have been in really “ Responsible “ homes, raised from Puppies and then snapped and killed children without warning .

It’s impossible to train that “fighting” mauling drive out of them.
Collies herd.
Greyhounds chase
XL /Pits Rag and maul, bred to be tenacious in attack and very unwilling to release unless shot dead or physically choked so it cannot breathe so has to release.
Attacks are sustained and gruesome.

There is no need for aggressive dogs of this type.

The more responsible XL Bully owner will muzzle and train their dog, and have it on a leash, but there will be scores of idiots who just won’t bother- because they will say their dog isn’t an XL Bully.
Look at the size of this XL’s head compared to the fragile child.
This sweet girl was mauled to death by this XL bully in the photo ( Mia Derouen)

Her mother said the dog just “ Flipped” and became unrecognisable.

A lot of U.K. XLs are related to this one.

I’m not saying that the XL Bully’s don’t have an increased capacity for it due to their genes, what I am saying is that if trained properly, you can give your dog an outlet for their instincts to avoid a negative outcome. As I say, for whatever reason they became a status symbol in recent years and so lots of the people buying them didn’t have any interest in training them properly because actually those people wanted them to look like big scary nasty protection/status dogs, so those people almost play to those natural instincts because they WANT them to act and look aggressive.

Our NDN's have been making a huge song and dance about their "old tyme" bulldog - that's very clearly got XL bully in it. It's absolutely enormous, has a bark that could wake the dead and she can't walk it as it's too strong for her to keep hold of if it sees a cat. The neighbours behind them had to rehome their beloved cat as it wasn't safe being let outside with this dog.

I fully intend to report it. Bloody thing scares the crap out of me.

It makes me sad to see any dog in the hands of someone who’s obviously not a good dog owner. The banning of XL bull dogs won’t change anything, they will just buy another dog that’s equally as powerful. So many XL bully’s will end up being dumped and put to sleep in the next 6 months, many will be put to sleep due to not wearing a muzzle or being lose in a public area, all due to poor ownership.

I like bull breeds, in the right hands they make lovely pets but sadly a lot get into the wrong hands. Rescue centres are panicking trying to rehome any they have before the ban comes in but sadly time is running out and they will be PTS.

Bring in licences for people who want to own any dog, people should be vetted before buying a dog from a breeder or a rescue.

I wonder what breed will be the next big hit with council estate drug dealers, it won’t end with the xl bully 🙁

So many XL bully’s will end up being dumped and put to sleep in the next 6 months,

Too bad so sad. Struggle to feel any sadness about this at all.

The dogs themselves have done nothing wrong, the owners and breeders have. I don’t like seeing any animal put to sleep. I am not against the ban but I a, against how it’s being conducted.

Somebody I know has "accidentally" bred from their XL Bully and GSD. The puppies are huge, strong and they have no homes for them. I despair.

What kind of truly disgusting human being could openly say they feel no sadness at all about the fact that probably hundreds if not thousands of perfectly healthy and innocent dogs are going to be killed in a matter of weeks.

Whether you approve or disapprove of the ban is one thing, but to say you feel no sadness about that huge amount of innocent animals being put to sleep is possibly one of the most vile things I have ever seen.

So what do you plan on doing with all these unwanted XL beasts, @Lovemusic82 ? Stick them in kennels for the rest of their lives? Because that's a great quality of life for them, isn't it? Far kinder to put them to sleep.

But they are not "innocent animals". They have been bred for aggression and intimidation. They are unsuitable to be in a family home. They cannot be "rehomed". They contribute absolutely nothing to society.

But some of them are completely innocent animals. Take the one living on my street as an example, he’s 5 years old. He’s lived for 5 years with his owners, he’s been visiting the dog cafes, he’s been going to doggy daycare, he’s been running around and playing with all the local dogs for that entire time. He’s never so much as growled or barked at anyone in his life. He is completely and utterly innocent. You’re saying you would feel no sadness at all at him being put to sleep, having never done a single thing wrong in his life, and that is honestly pure evil

I couldn't give a shit about them.

Pure evil for not boo hooing over an XL chav beast. OK then.

I’ve noticed an uptick in Presa Canario dogs for rehoming. Know nothing about the breed but wondering if they were also XL Bulldog alternates.

No chick, pure evil for not feeling any sadness at all over the fact that hundreds of animals are going to be put to sleep through no fault of their own. OK THEN👍🏻

Again, @Mrsttcno1 what do you propose to do with these thousands of animals which nobody with half a brain cell will want in their house?

Stick them in taxpayer-funded kennels to live their lives of 10 years locked up? Because that sounds like a lovely life, doesn't it? Putting them to sleep is the best outcome and they are not "innocent". They are inbred, aggressive, ticking timebombs.

I am just relieved that parks etc will become safer for those of us with small non aggressive breeds and families with children. There are a lot of bullies round here and several have been abandoned in recent weeks, which is obviously very dangerous if unsuspecting walkers come across them.

I agree that the owners are a huge problem, but these bullies are huge, strong and aggressive, I have had large breeds when I was younger and with my young family including a German shepherd but they were well trained and children were not left alone with them. I saw a woman bring one to the vets to be put down that had badly savaged her arm, she was a single parent with 4 small children so it was only luck that it hadn’t killed a child, like many of these cases the dog had been acquired “second hand” on Facebook marketplace with no assessment or rescue involvement.

As an animal lover I am deeply saddened by the thought of all these dogs being PTS, but I would never consider having one as a pet, it would be like living with an unexploded bomb.

And again chick, read my last reply. The dog on my street, 5 years old, never put a foot wrong- that is an innocent animal. That clearly doesn’t fit your narrative though. You can agree or disagree with the ban, but if you are in any way an animal lover, then the thought of all of those healthy animals being put to sleep should at the very least make you the slightest bit sad. Even if you strip it all back, and say this is the breed- they didn’t fucking breed themselves. HUMANS did this. Humans who all wanted one and who didn’t want to wait for them, which then prompted other horrible humans to start backyard breeding, inbreeding and puppy farming them to meet the demand by HUMANS to have one of these dogs. So even if you say the breeding is the problem- the dogs are still innocent. They didn’t ask to be bred and born.

Re- “what to do with them instead”, if they have an exemption certificate then you can keep them. Meaning neuter them, train them, they wear a muzzle and are on a lead in public places etc. If the government hadn’t placed the restriction on rehoming then this would still be an option for them, and so some of these dogs could go on to find new homes. There are multiple kennels near me who have been involved in trying to campaign for the government to change the decision on rehoming at the very least because they would rather keep the dogs they have and continue looking for homes for them.

Make no mistake, people like you will be back here in a few years time copy and pasting all of your opinions but switching out “XL Bully” for Cane Corso, or staffy, or German Shepherd, because these irresponsible owners when they lose their XL Bully’s will just pick another breed to do the same thing with. Until they start to police the other end of the lead there will be a constant cycle.

Whatever, "chick", you carry on thinking that the XL chav beast you know is a lovely dog.