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Just venting - I'm really fed up with this kind of marriage/life

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2017morework · 05/12/2023 13:10

Just fed up. Near 50, been married for 12 years and been together for 16 years. DH low sex drive since 15.5 years ago and no sex happened since missions were completed - with DS2 born. He doesn't want to bother to fix it as he doesn't need it and he has low emotional need - very "logical" brain and rarely find being emotional has any virtue.

Good match intellectually with me, as we can talk and talk and talk and nearly agree on everything. Similar view for life style and parenting.

But really a mismatch at emotional level. There's no cuddles and no touches out of love. Don't mention any flowers for occasions ever. Been through lots of "talks", but he just wouldn't get it and never remember to make efforts (simply because I need it but he doesn't).

Awful at housework. Just doesn't see the mess or problems. I can't even express how frustrated all these years by chasing him to do things that I can't do myself. And he gets crossed if I chased too keenly. We have dampness issue in party wall area for 4-5 years. Not an easy fix. But it seems that I'm the only one who still try to think about it or do anything about it. Now there's rain leaking into our bedroom trickling on 2 walls. He doesn't seem to "get it" that something needs to be done. I've given him the phone numbers of a few "may-be-decent" roofers that I spent hours found online going through forums/recommendations (I hate calling tradesmen myself as I always sounded stupid to them). But he's just "too busy" in the day to call in the last two months. We finally got a roofer to take a look at the dampness upstairs. But when I was away doing school run, he managed to forget to show the roofer the leak in our bedroom! How? I mean? How???

He's not incompetent. He works at director level in IT and has good work habit. But I'm so fed up that he never seems bothered to migrate any of his competence at work to household needs. Is it a man thing??? It's so so so unfair!

In the good days, I feel lucky to be able to afford our life style and to share similar pursues with DH and enjoyed the intellectual conversation. But in the bad days like today, I feel so trapped in life, as I know I wouldn't leave just because of all the above. But I feel scared that one day I would end up having an affair that will end it all nastily.

I know life is short. But still I don't think that's enough to justify ending the marriage just for the above. The only thing I can do is to vent on a forum!

My life, my own choice, my own doing, right???

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Mumsanetta · 05/12/2023 13:26

I think you’re seeking permission to divorce him - here, have mine! Have my encouragement even. These are supposed to be your best years, get rid of the noose around your neck and go out there and live a life that makes you happy. And your DH is perfectly capable of meeting your needs and doing his share of house related work, he just doesn’t want to.

CreationNat1on · 05/12/2023 13:42

Have an affair with a roofer, 2 birds, 1 stone.

2017morework · 05/12/2023 13:43

@Mumsanetta , if I ever end up divorcing, I'm not going to get married again! The majority of men are selfish and don't value their female counterparts the way they deserve!

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CreationNat1on · 05/12/2023 13:43

Never a truer word typed.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 05/12/2023 13:54

But still I don't think that's enough to justify ending the marriage just for the above

There's no 'just' here. Those are things that most people would find untenable after a year let alone 15!

Stilldigging · 05/12/2023 14:52

You sound completely incompatible. I think the marriage will end in divorce one way or another. Personally I would end it now, while things are still amicable and you have a hope of continuing to co parent without too much friction. If you stay together it is just going to eat away at both of you.

Sophie2024 · 10/01/2024 12:51

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Sophie2024 · 10/01/2024 12:53

CreationNat1on · 05/12/2023 13:42

Have an affair with a roofer, 2 birds, 1 stone.

That really made me laugh X thanks needed that today x

SmugglersHaunt · 10/01/2024 12:57

Do you think he could be autistic?

CavalierApproach · 10/01/2024 13:02

I don't think that's enough to justify ending the marriage just for the above

According to whom? There isn’t a standard you have to reach to get permission.

Life is short. Don’t waste it in a relationship where you get no affection or practical support. From the outside, it sounds like you’ve kind of conditioned yourself to accept being seriously miserable.

(For context, if it matters, I am in my 50s and happy with loving second DP after ending a 20-year relationship several years ago.)

Whatsthestorynow · 10/01/2024 13:06

When you say ‘no sex since missions were completed’ do you mean no sex since conceiving your children?

Viviennemary · 10/01/2024 13:07

You need to decide if this is the life you want to continue leading or do you want a change. I suppose you could Try marriage guidance to try and sort out your difficulties. Or is it time to call it a day. Also think in 15 or twenty years what regrets will you have regarding the choice you make.

PaminaMozart · 10/01/2024 13:13

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 05/12/2023 13:54

But still I don't think that's enough to justify ending the marriage just for the above

There's no 'just' here. Those are things that most people would find untenable after a year let alone 15!

I agree - what other justification do you think you need, @2017morework ?

You are literally sacrificing the only life you've got............... for what?

FrownedUpon · 10/01/2024 13:18

SmugglersHaunt · 10/01/2024 12:57

Do you think he could be autistic?

I knew someone would ask this. What difference does it make?

If she’s unhappy in the marriage, she needs to leave. He won’t change, autistic or not!

Gatewayerror501 · 10/01/2024 13:34

You're co-parents and you're friends. You're not romantic partners though and he's a rubbish housemate. I don't see any reason to stay married except fear of the unknown.

BatteryPowerGnat · 10/01/2024 13:45

SmugglersHaunt · 10/01/2024 12:57

Do you think he could be autistic?

He's an IT Director and they are often on the ASD

verygreengrass · 10/01/2024 13:47

It's not going to get any better - I don't think.

He can't meet your needs and he will never improve - it could get worse the older he gets.

Either accept who he is or move on. Or live together in 2 separate worlds.

Yes I would totally agree ASD - but then she can half understand him / accept him. Also it will be hard on him to understand her needs as he won't feel / understand what she is wanting .... why don't you say you want a cuddle? Gets a bit exhausting but they honestly don't get it ...

Also, book him a gp apt for bloods as he won't do it.

Good luck

rainydaysaway · 10/01/2024 13:48

CreationNat1on · 05/12/2023 13:42

Have an affair with a roofer, 2 birds, 1 stone.

I know this is a serious thread but this is hilarious 😆

Gowlett · 10/01/2024 13:50

Don’t think I’d get married again, either.
I think a lot more young women aren’t…
Luckily I married at 40, so had freedom.

Khdzgg · 10/01/2024 13:53

You’re too young to give up on sex entirely

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/01/2024 16:22

Definitely divorce him - you're not a romantic or a share a home match - it's great you can have great conversations with him and that you parent similarly- you can continue these as coparents and pals. Life too short to stay in a romantic relationship where your needs aren't met despite lots of effort to communicate.

Don't say all men are selfish though- although many are, there are lots of men who are in marriages like yours and could have written your op and would love to meet you when you're both single

2017morework · 10/01/2024 17:25

I don't know.

Maybe I feel a sense of responsibility? For my own choice when I gave the vow to care and to go through it?

Maybe I don't want to ruin the world of others' just because I'm not happy (because I do care about each of them, DH and DCs)?

Maybe after all, I don't believe true happiness is easy or even reachable to ordinary people? I've had a few relationships before I met DH. To fall in love with someone is ten times easier than keeping the relationship going and staying strong after the initial honeymoon fades? I just don't believe I could be one of the few lucky ones. After all, DH doesn't treat me badly and we do get along if not talking about "love life" and chores ...sigh... 😔

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PTSDBarbiegirl · 10/01/2024 17:26

Emotional man child, would he get therapy?

AutumnFroglets · 10/01/2024 17:34

Awful at housework. Just doesn't see the mess or problems. I can't even express how frustrated all these years by chasing him to do things that I can't do myself. And he gets crossed if I chased too keenly.
That is enough. Frustration breeds resentment and anger which breeds contempt and that is a relationship killer that no amount of counselling will help with.

You are housemates but one is a lazy fucker. Time to move on, your children will appreciate a happier, less stressed mother.

TakeMeToLondonTown · 10/01/2024 17:36

I left my marriage for similar reasons, although it was more a lack of attraction (from me towards him) and age gap rather than low sex drive issue. We were married 23 years and, for most of it, I'd been the driver for everything to do with the house, administration of the house, children...anything. I got fed up of it. He also didn't compliment me. At all. Other men did - in fact, two men complimented me today (I'm 51).
Sex with my husband was boring and lacked passion. He was awful tbh.

16 years ago was the last time I had sex with my stbx. I called it a day 4 years ago as - guess what? - my desire was awoken by another man. Of course it was! I was a menopausal, 45 year old woman living in a dead, loveless, sexless marriage. It was no way to live. Menopause heightened my feelings towards my marriage so I acted. No regrets. In fact, I feel very bitter that I stuck it out so long based on the fact it had been my choice to marry him. I was inexperienced and naive!

End this marriage. It'll get worse.