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PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:39

Mirabai · 21/11/2023 12:24

Makes me glad to have done geography, orienteering and duke of Edinburgh in the days before mobiles!

Due to my ADHD I find it impossible to read a map so I never go anywhere I can't use google maps.

I feel so sorry for the parents, they must be out of their minds with worry.

MossGrowsFat · 21/11/2023 12:39

Lovemychair · 21/11/2023 12:32

Once Mum said she thought her son was staying at a friend's Grandad's house

A very good reason to always check with the adult who they are meant to be staying with. So many posts on MN about not letting their children go for sleepovers without getting contact details for very good reason.

You can't do that to a 17 year old.

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:41

MossGrowsFat · 21/11/2023 12:39

You can't do that to a 17 year old.

I don't see why not, it's good practice even for adults to do that IMO, letting people where you're going to be and with who.

switchesag · 21/11/2023 12:42

Crumpetdisappointment · 21/11/2023 12:38

latest update doesnt sound hopeful

What update is that?

PecanPeach · 21/11/2023 12:43

Really hoping for a positive outcome. As a parent this is my worst nightmare and I will be talking again about the importance of the link between honesty and safety.

When I was 18 I had a secret boyfriend and went to america with him for 4 days without telling my parents. I did tell a friend who knew where I was but I still feel sick now thinking about if something had happened and they had no idea I was even abroad.

DevonSeaSwimmer · 21/11/2023 12:43

This is all we know for sure at the moment:
BBC Wales
North Wales Police have issued a statement in the last few minutes.
It says that due to a member of the public giving them information, they have now located the car - the missing silver Fiesta they were looking for that belonged to one of the group.
They say they are at the scene currently and they are keeping the families of all of those who’ve been reported missing informed of any developments.

JANEY205 · 21/11/2023 12:43

I don’t think many parents of 17yo call to check they are at the sleepover they said they are at. Most go to uni, gap years or move out when 18 or shortly after!

The biggest thing you can do is encourage an open relationship with your child so you can guide them and remind them of how to stay safe is such situations. The fact the boy lied suggests he did not want his family knowing what he was up to.

Mirabai · 21/11/2023 12:44

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:39

Due to my ADHD I find it impossible to read a map so I never go anywhere I can't use google maps.

I feel so sorry for the parents, they must be out of their minds with worry.

I have ADHD. But luckily I learnt to map read as a teenager. Map reading was a section of geography o level. Concave and convex slopes, escarpment etc.

JANEY205 · 21/11/2023 12:45

PecanPeach · 21/11/2023 12:43

Really hoping for a positive outcome. As a parent this is my worst nightmare and I will be talking again about the importance of the link between honesty and safety.

When I was 18 I had a secret boyfriend and went to america with him for 4 days without telling my parents. I did tell a friend who knew where I was but I still feel sick now thinking about if something had happened and they had no idea I was even abroad.

@PecanPeach os there anything your parents could have done differently for you to have told them? Did you feel safe in your relationship with your parents to tell them you had a boyfriend and we’re going on a trip? I think back to my Mum driving me to get the emergency morning after pill and being so calm, I hope I can have that relationship with my own children! I never lied to my Mum because she was non-judgemental and would just roll with situations.

MossGrowsFat · 21/11/2023 12:46

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:41

I don't see why not, it's good practice even for adults to do that IMO, letting people where you're going to be and with who.

? So you'd expect your mum/wife/husband to check with the adult you were staying with?

There is a difference between sharing where you are going (very important) and ringing and checking up with the adult they are meant to be staying with.

Telling the truth is the important bit, but teens are hardwired to be secretive.

I hope they are found safe

Viviennemary · 21/11/2023 12:46

I just saw on sky news ambulances have been sent after an 'incident' believed to be connected the missing boys.

TravellingT · 21/11/2023 12:47

Ambulances including air have been called to a scene. I really hope these boys are okay

SheIsStuck23 · 21/11/2023 12:47

JANEY205 · 21/11/2023 12:45

@PecanPeach os there anything your parents could have done differently for you to have told them? Did you feel safe in your relationship with your parents to tell them you had a boyfriend and we’re going on a trip? I think back to my Mum driving me to get the emergency morning after pill and being so calm, I hope I can have that relationship with my own children! I never lied to my Mum because she was non-judgemental and would just roll with situations.

Absolutely!

When I look back on me being between the ages of 15-19 and the amount of times I lied to my parents about where I was….

It’s terrifying.

Stressedafff · 21/11/2023 12:47

JANEY205 · 21/11/2023 12:45

@PecanPeach os there anything your parents could have done differently for you to have told them? Did you feel safe in your relationship with your parents to tell them you had a boyfriend and we’re going on a trip? I think back to my Mum driving me to get the emergency morning after pill and being so calm, I hope I can have that relationship with my own children! I never lied to my Mum because she was non-judgemental and would just roll with situations.

Your mum sounds amazing. I was a liar, still am because I had to be
My mum was so judgemental, she’s moulded me into a proper people pleaser too, so I ended up lying to her to make sure no drama came from anything I told her. I still lie to her now.

MrsKeats · 21/11/2023 12:47

The car has been found.

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:47

It sounds like they've probably had some kind of accident.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 21/11/2023 12:48

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:41

I don't see why not, it's good practice even for adults to do that IMO, letting people where you're going to be and with who.

A parent isn’t going to check with their 17yo’s friend’s grandad that they’re really staying there.

The parent thought they did know where he was going.

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:48

TBH, I used to lie to my mum all the time as a teenager and she was very non judgemental, open and just generally lovely, so I didn't really have much excuse. I just didn't want to tell her stuff.

Doteycat · 21/11/2023 12:48

MossGrowsFat · 21/11/2023 12:39

You can't do that to a 17 year old.

You can however have them on Google maps with locations on.
We all have each other in this family.
We are all over the world in diff places most of the time these days and it's just a thing we have.
No one minds. We don't even think about it tbh. But it wld b there if we needed it.
It's called being honest and safe and giving a shit about each other.
Not saying these poor parents didn't, not at all of course not.
Just that u can actually know where ur 17yr old is and they be ok with it.

coffeeaddict77 · 21/11/2023 12:49

Hopefully they have just got lost and will be found soon. If they have found the car it seems unlikely that all four have been in an accident.

TallulahBetty · 21/11/2023 12:49

ifonly4 · 21/11/2023 12:02

Flight radar shows a heavy helicopter presence around their home town, so authorities must think there's also a strong possibility they're near home, unless there's something else going on in that area.

Yep, lots circling here...

nocoolnamesleft · 21/11/2023 12:49

The Sky news brief report about the number and type of ambulance resources dispatched suggests a major accident. Fingers firmly crossed for these lads.

Notts90 · 21/11/2023 12:50

Sounds as if they've got in to an accident.

Easily done if a young inexperienced driver, especially round some of those roads near Porthmadog.

Hoping they're all OK. Poor parents must be frantic.

Comefromaway · 21/11/2023 12:50

Google maps does not work in those kind of remote areas.

QueenCamilla · 21/11/2023 12:50

PugginBaby · 21/11/2023 12:41

I don't see why not, it's good practice even for adults to do that IMO, letting people where you're going to be and with who.

It might be "good practice" but it ain't so good practically when one has to tell their parents: mum, dad - I'm hitchhiking to the other side of the country without any money really but plenty of alcohol for the three nights of the festival. Annie is coming too - we are meeting at the petrol station where the buses end 😳

The main thing was to avoid the confiscation of the booze and a locked front door. Unfortunately the thinking didn't extend beyond. It does now, so I know I'm lucky to be whole and alive.

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