Has this place become even more batshit than ever recently?

[TheLongpigs]

I know places change and there are seasons, but having read the bitchy, judgey, snobby and entitled replies on curtains and cruises in the last 24 hours, I wonder what's going on.

There's no humour behind these posts - just blatant nastiness. People increasingly seem to revel in saying things they'd never ever utter in real life.

Even as I write this I'm aware that there are thoughtful, hilarious, supportive and intelligent corners of MN, but it's hit and miss finding them these days.

I'll try and find curtain thread, but I warn you, it's depressing reading.

Yes, and posters who cannot contemplate people having a differing opinion. Current thread running with op stating hq have said they will suspend/ban anyone who calls them a liar.

Can I just say @TheLongpigs your name has made me feel 11 again! 🎵she said 🎵 was anthem of my summer 1993! Mainly led by cooler elder 16yo sibling!

There has been a spate of truly batty threads just lately, and quite a smattering of what look like made-up shit as well.

You're right about the nastiness though. I've posted a few times on entirely innocuous threads in recent weeks, and had some downright confrontational and argumentative responses. It is tiresome. People seem to want a bunfight for the sake of it rather than just respond by politely disagreeing with you.

Was the curtain thread last night? If so I was annoyed that people were asking her to say how much the curtain cost .
lt was irrelevant to her post. Asking for advice!

Why do my expensive-ish curtains look crap
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4944376-why-do-my-expensive-ish-curtains-look-crap

Op was amazing - patient, non-defensive and easy-going. 10% posters were helpful. The majority were awful.

Those were the days. I still feel The Longpigs are one of life's most underrated bands!

Earlier some users ended up accusing other posters of neglect due to their methods of serving dinner.

Who knew using a serving dish could potentially be so controversial...

I'm totally up for people disagreeing. It was one of the great things about MN, people respectfully / intelligently giving a different opinion. Pile-ones are shit all round though and no one is any better for them.

Oh god not this again

Yes it's worse than ever

It’s not just MN but yes I agree it’s got worse.
It’s this current ‘trend’ of black or white thinking. Whatever the topic now people pick a ‘side’ and argue it to the death.
There is very little nuanced or grey area thinking it’s just this ‘I’m right and you’re wrong’ mentality. Very childish and unbalanced.
I see it everywhere on social media and in life in general. I think the media are partly to blame, they subtly pit groups of people against each other. And I think there are so many problems in our world it’s making people angry and defensive.

@PuttingDownRoots you've obviously never had the trauma of a non warmed plate ...

Please could someone link the cruise thread too?

I have just been reading the curtains thread, some awful posts on there. I cannot imagine thinking half of the stuff, let alone actually typing it out and pressing post.

There's no humour behind these posts - just blatant nastiness. People increasingly seem to revel in saying things they'd never ever utter in real life.

The rest of the internet is 100% worse

Where is the curtain thread!

I suggested a friend of mine ask a question on Mumsnet to do with a location to move to.

She said the responses were so weirdly nasty that she didn't bother going back to the thread and deleted her account.

@Thehonestybox I agree. I think a lot of people are depressed too to varying degrees- awful government, problems with housing costs unless you are fortunate enough to have no mortgage/small mortgage/social housing rent , energy bills, world events, a lot of quite unstable businesses out there post covid and Brexit. A lot of self employed people also incurred huge debt during covid to keep going .

Some people are quite and listless if depressed but others actually can be pretty nasty

I think it has got worse. I’ve been on here nearly 2 decades and I wouldn’t post now about anything I felt generally vulnerable regarding.

I've not been here long but some of the posts are just vile and I wonder if some people actually read the thread.

The curtains one was bad but the one about the lady helping her friend with a section 21 notice was truly hurtful. Having been temporarily homeless in Bristol years ago I feel for that man, some responses there were factually incorrect and some were just awful.

It used to be supportive, funny and informative. Nowadays, it's a bear pit across many of the talk topics. Particularly loathe AIBU with the global get out clause of "well, it's AIBU, what did you expect?" when someone has been piled on, called every name under the sun, had their character annihilated on the basis of extrapolation from one innocent post. Pathetic.

I’ve been here ages under different names over the years. Twice I’ve had a difficult situation with no one to turn to and I’ve looked here for a bit of support and guidance and twice I’ve been torn to shreds and left the thread in tears / deleted the app. I would never ever post now in regards to something tricky or where I’m feeling vulnerable. For example, I once posted about how my child was wonderfully behaved in school and the teacher had told me she’s so fond of her and how bright she is, but I was struggling with her a bit at home, the first reply was along the lines of “the teacher is lying, your brat will be utterly despised in that classroom and the teacher will be judging your parenting.” My child was only in reception, I was a single mum, also had a newborn baby and PND and I can’t tell you how much that one comment upset me and messed with my head for weeks. I don’t know what it is about this place but you either get the kindest and most understanding people take time out of their day to offer a kind word, or you get torn to shreds over a pair of curtains.

so I don’t risk it these days, just shut up and figure it out by myself.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4944376-why-do-my-expensive-ish-curtains-look-crap

Curtain thread

I always think the really nasty posts are not actually Mumsnetters.

There is always a tone here and those ultra nasties are not it.

I also think that a lot of them are men - the posting style does not scream human woman to me.

Maybe I am just a conspiracy hunter but I think not.

I try to ignore and engage in the usual way with the threads.