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Please settle an argument between me and DP..... what does 'mild' mean?

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Limth · 15/11/2023 12:34

You may be preventing a fucking divorce here, so please help by answering this question -

Question: If I said "It's milder today than it was yesterday", would you take that to mean:
A: Its warmer than it was yesterday
B: Its colder than yesterday

Very many thanks!

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SoupDragon · 15/11/2023 19:05

MsRosley · 15/11/2023 18:02

Not it isn't. I've studied English to a high level and worked with it all my life. You're talking nonsense. It always means warmer. I have literally NEVER heard it being used to mean less hot.

don't you listen to summer weather forecasts then?

SequentialAnalyst · 15/11/2023 19:07

MsRosley · 15/11/2023 18:02

Not it isn't. I've studied English to a high level and worked with it all my life. You're talking nonsense. It always means warmer. I have literally NEVER heard it being used to mean less hot.

This thread, however, seems to be evidence that other people have heard it used to mean less hot.

J316 · 15/11/2023 19:09

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 15/11/2023 12:40

It would depend on the weather yesterday

If yesterday was freezing it means it's warmer, if yesterday was a scorcher it means it's cooler

Correct. It’s all relative to what you’re comparing it to 😁

Merrymouse · 15/11/2023 19:20

ginasevern · 15/11/2023 17:43

It means warmer. I have never heard it used (weather wise) in any other way. Even the weather men/women say, for example, "tomorrow will be pleasantly milder than today" meaning warmer, not colder. If it was colder they would say "tomorrow will be quite a bit chillier than today". The meaning is not optional any more than when you're describing a curry - it's either spicy or it's mild.

But a mild curry is less hot.

AllTangledUpInTitlesAndTiaras · 15/11/2023 19:22

The point is that context can change how a word is used...

Just because 'mild' means less hot when you're talking about a curry, doesn't automatically mean it would follow that it would be used in the same way when talking about the weather.

And, as pp mentioned, usage may also differ depending on region and/or country.

scottishGirl · 15/11/2023 19:36

Warmer. Or also would use it to describe more calm weather? Eg not as windy or not as rainy.

Elly46 · 15/11/2023 19:59

Warmer for sure

sherloc · 15/11/2023 20:05

@SequentialAnalyst Does it matter if I cleave to less extreme, or cleave from colder? Asking for a friend.

AngeloMysterioso · 15/11/2023 20:08

Depends on what it was yesterday, as milder means less severe or extreme.

So if yesterday it was freezing cold, then milder = warmer

If yesterday was a scorcher then milder = cooler

Butteredtoast55 · 15/11/2023 20:12

Totally warmer.
My DS hates the term 'mild' because it isn't definitive. It's meaning varies depending on the weather so a mild day in summer wouldn't be especially hot bit a mild day in winter wouldn't be cold.

FedUpOfInstaMum · 15/11/2023 20:19

A - Warmer. Who says it's B? 🙈

Merrymouse · 15/11/2023 20:27

Just because 'mild' means less hot when you're talking about a curry, doesn't automatically mean it would follow that it would be used in the same way when talking about the weather.

But, just from this thread, people do use ‘mild’ to mean weather becoming cooler after a period of extreme heat.

Limth · 15/11/2023 20:28

So many replies! Thank you everyone. I wish I'd done a poll. But there does seem to be a fairly consistent view here:
When talking about temperature as it pertains to weather, in common talk 'milder' generally means 'warmer', as way my argument. But 'milder' is a comparative term so could, technically also mean cooler if the thing you were comparing it to was particularly hot. But, generally, the phrase for that would be 'cooler'. DP's stance that 'milder' always means less hot is wrong and DP's a shitgibbon

Thanks everyone. DP's away tonight but I shall relay the conclusions when he's back.

For me: Bring a meeting forward means to do it earlier. So bringing forward at 12:00 meeting means doing it at 10:00 instead.
For me: Next Saturday means the Saturday after the immediate one coming up which is "This Saturday" because it belongs to the week you're already in.
<Ducks>

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LylaLee · 15/11/2023 20:32

Agreed OP. If it was ten degrees yesterday, and five degrees today, to say "it is milder today" is plain wrong.

AllTangledUpInTitlesAndTiaras · 15/11/2023 20:33

Merrymouse · 15/11/2023 20:27

Just because 'mild' means less hot when you're talking about a curry, doesn't automatically mean it would follow that it would be used in the same way when talking about the weather.

But, just from this thread, people do use ‘mild’ to mean weather becoming cooler after a period of extreme heat.

Yes but that still doesn't have anything to do with whether or not a curry is hot or mild.

I was merely making the point that one usage existing within one context doesn't automatically mean that the same usage applies within another context.

LuckyCharm9 · 15/11/2023 20:37

Limth · 15/11/2023 20:28

So many replies! Thank you everyone. I wish I'd done a poll. But there does seem to be a fairly consistent view here:
When talking about temperature as it pertains to weather, in common talk 'milder' generally means 'warmer', as way my argument. But 'milder' is a comparative term so could, technically also mean cooler if the thing you were comparing it to was particularly hot. But, generally, the phrase for that would be 'cooler'. DP's stance that 'milder' always means less hot is wrong and DP's a shitgibbon

Thanks everyone. DP's away tonight but I shall relay the conclusions when he's back.

For me: Bring a meeting forward means to do it earlier. So bringing forward at 12:00 meeting means doing it at 10:00 instead.
For me: Next Saturday means the Saturday after the immediate one coming up which is "This Saturday" because it belongs to the week you're already in.
<Ducks>

Edited

The last paragraph is totally me too! This Saturday is the one coming up, next Saturday is the one after that I.e 25th in this case.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 15/11/2023 20:59

When it’s very cold outside I say it’s bitter, so any change to that is described as milder.
If it’s very hot outside I say boiling, and when that changes I say cooler.
(If the weather goes from very hot to even hotter or very cold to even colder I describe it as “fucking hell, when will this end?”)

And now I’m second guessing the way I speak.

Damnloginpopup · 15/11/2023 21:21

Oh shit. I was gonna say warmer. But it's definitely cooler. Or warmer. Or...

It's seasonal, most definitely. Milder in winter is Warmer. Milder in summer is cooler.

Merrymouse · 15/11/2023 21:33

I was merely making the point that one usage existing within one context doesn't automatically mean that the same usage applies within another context.

It’s the same context.

Extreme to less extreme.

mild means ‘not violent, severe, or extreme’.

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violent

1. using force to hurt or attack: 2. used to describe a situation or event in…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/violent

SequentialAnalyst · 15/11/2023 21:45

sherloc · 15/11/2023 20:05

@SequentialAnalyst Does it matter if I cleave to less extreme, or cleave from colder? Asking for a friend.

Depends whether you're talking about something flammable, or inflammableWink

AllTangledUpInTitlesAndTiaras · 15/11/2023 21:48

The definition has been posted before, I’ve already commented on it. From at least two perspectives.

I’m not going to argue back and forth with you - it’s really not that interesting or important (to me, anyway). Happy to agree to disagree, or not! Smile

SequentialAnalyst · 15/11/2023 21:48

@AmazingBouncingFerret Thankfully, in that instance, "boiling" does not mean that the air temp is 100 deg C, or over. (Just that it feels like it might as well be...)Grin

SequentialAnalyst · 15/11/2023 21:49

@AllTangledUpInTitlesAndTiaras But which particular dictionary has got it Really Right?

soundsys · 15/11/2023 21:55

Warmer

AllTangledUpInTitlesAndTiaras · 15/11/2023 22:22

@SequentialAnalyst Grin

I’ve run the gamut on this thread and ended up where I always end up - appreciative of the wonders of language. Never a bad place to be!