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Please settle an argument between me and DP..... what does 'mild' mean?

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Limth · 15/11/2023 12:34

You may be preventing a fucking divorce here, so please help by answering this question -

Question: If I said "It's milder today than it was yesterday", would you take that to mean:
A: Its warmer than it was yesterday
B: Its colder than yesterday

Very many thanks!

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MintJulia · 15/11/2023 16:30

Warmer.

TayeuxBapestry · 15/11/2023 16:30

Hibiscrubbed · 15/11/2023 16:29

Divorce the stupid twat. I couldn’t stand to be married to someone that thick. Seriously.

But he isn’t thick Or a stupid twat? He’s correct. You can have mild summers. Mild summers are those that are cooler. The technical definitely of mild is les extreme. You can say ‘it’s milder today after yesterdays storm’ relating to wind. You can say it’s milder today as in less hot than the extreme heat of yesterday. You can say it’s milder today as in warmer than yesterdays ice blast.

JaninaDuszejko · 15/11/2023 16:33

sherloc · 15/11/2023 16:12

Agree with all the 'less extreme' voters.

I'm a member of a professional body with hundreds of thousands of members worldwide. A money saving tip published in our fascinating monthly magazine recommended turning the thermostat UP a couple of degrees.

The person making the suggestion assumed we were all working in air conditioned offices - in Asia. Not sure if that is more or less mild.

In our holiday apartment in Spain they suggested the same thing. 'Don't chill to less than 23C to save energy'.

IncompleteSenten · 15/11/2023 16:37

Wolfpa · 15/11/2023 16:13

Try asking him the question:

if we scheduled a meeting at 12:00 and then asked to move it forward by 2 hours what time would we meet?

It is a real divider when it comes to relationships.

The English language is a beautiful thing.

I'd say 10.

Move forward is bring closer. The opposite would be to move it back.

IncompleteSenten · 15/11/2023 16:39

JL690 · 15/11/2023 16:28

You can start that thread if you want 😂

Oh gawd.

We had that thread.

People were maimed.

JL690 · 15/11/2023 16:40

IncompleteSenten · 15/11/2023 16:39

Oh gawd.

We had that thread.

People were maimed.

I respectfully withdraw my remark.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/11/2023 16:40

But he isn’t thick Or a stupid twat? He’s correct. You can have mild summers. Mild summers are those that are cooler. The technical definitely of mild is les extreme. You can say ‘it’s milder today after yesterdays storm’ relating to wind. You can say it’s milder today as in less hot than the extreme heat of yesterday. You can say it’s milder today as in warmer than yesterdays ice blast.

No, he's not. The OP said he thinks that 'milder' always means colder/cooler/lower temperature. That's plain wrong.

TayeuxBapestry · 15/11/2023 16:44

ErrolTheDragon · 15/11/2023 16:40

But he isn’t thick Or a stupid twat? He’s correct. You can have mild summers. Mild summers are those that are cooler. The technical definitely of mild is les extreme. You can say ‘it’s milder today after yesterdays storm’ relating to wind. You can say it’s milder today as in less hot than the extreme heat of yesterday. You can say it’s milder today as in warmer than yesterdays ice blast.

No, he's not. The OP said he thinks that 'milder' always means colder/cooler/lower temperature. That's plain wrong.

Always means, not correct. But that’s not different to the people saying it always means warmer - because it doesn’t. I can mean warmer or colder or less windy or whatever. It means both. So if he’s a thick twat so is everyone else saying it definitely only means warmer.

PosyPrettyToes · 15/11/2023 16:44

The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "less severe", so warmer. He might want to argue against you, but is he also willing to take on the dictionary?

PennyProud · 15/11/2023 16:46

Warmer. He might not believe 100s of people on mumsnet but he might believe the dictionary

Please settle an argument between me and DP..... what does 'mild' mean?
SequentialAnalyst · 15/11/2023 16:53

As a Linguist, with the MA to prove itWink, the only way to find out about a spoken language is to ask native speakers of that language. Which is what OP has done. There isn't always a clear cut answer.

Asking native speakers works best for testing whether a sentence devised by the linguist is grammatical or not. Our professor, a very distinguished theorist in syntax, used to sometimes turn up half way through a lecture given by someone else, to ask the opinion of any native speakers of English on the latest sentence he wanted testing.

The use and meaning of mild, this week/next week and various other things are more about semantics/pragmatics. They give rise to various ambiguities, as PP have noted. There is no right answer.

Even I, sad pedant that I am, have to accept that "under the circumstances" is just as good British English as "in the circumstances." My linguistics course was very clear that British English consists of "the language as she is spoke" and that "I never done nothing" is a perfectly valid sentence in British English, double negative or not.

JL690 · 15/11/2023 16:56

@SequentialAnalyst summed up this thread in a nutshell 😂

ACynicalDad · 15/11/2023 16:56

Warmer in winter, colder in summer. Today I'd mean warmer.

FLOrenze · 15/11/2023 16:56

@PennyProud the issue is not about mild . It is about milder.

Toooldtocareanymore · 15/11/2023 16:59

A its warmer ( to me milder means less cold)

SequentialAnalyst · 15/11/2023 17:01

JL690 · 15/11/2023 16:56

@SequentialAnalyst summed up this thread in a nutshell 😂

Have probably added stuff to my post since you posted this - I think I was editing while you were postingGrin

TryingToMakeSenseOfIt · 15/11/2023 17:04

Oh dear...... Mild means LESS cold than yesterday

Lucia574 · 15/11/2023 17:06

Depends on whether yesterday was too hot or too cold! It means less extreme.

AllTangledUpInTitlesAndTiaras · 15/11/2023 17:06

Love comments like yours @SequentialAnalyst! As I said, language is a wonderful thing.

Farcis · 15/11/2023 17:10

Well thank heavens for @SequentialAnalyst! I definitely use the milder in both directions - cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter.

I am a native English speaker, but not British.

Parentofeanda · 15/11/2023 17:10

But mild means not hot hence mild curry ...

TayeuxBapestry · 15/11/2023 17:14

Parentofeanda · 15/11/2023 17:10

But mild means not hot hence mild curry ...

It’s all about context. In this instance you’re talking about the extremities of spice. In the OPs example she is talking about the extremities of weather.

Topsyturvy78 · 15/11/2023 17:15

Mild usually clear sky's no rain. Though still cold not damp and miserable.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 15/11/2023 17:15

You’re both right - it just means it’s easier to be outside and not be uncomfortable. Sort of the opposite of “inclement” used on trains to mean “not pleasant” and can mean 36 degrees of heatwave or driving hail.

Zanatdy · 15/11/2023 17:16

A - warmer today

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