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Crap halloween givers

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WashingAt30 · 31/10/2023 19:15

It's nice when someone opens the door to you, and they at least smile, and maybe have a little chat about the DC's costumes. My god, some people don't even look happy, just shove a bag of sweets at you as close the door! I wouldn't be surprised if one creepy man we met was on some kind of offenders register. Why bother if you're not going to get into the spirt?!

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Jellybean23 · 31/10/2023 22:47

This is such a contrived event. Just an excuse for shops to sell more tat and they've really ramped it up in recent years. It's a pagan festival so any devout Christians must feel uncomfortable about supporting it. Some folks sit in darkness, pretending they are out so no trick is played on them. No wonder people don't want callers but have sweets at the ready as protection. And they are supposed to smile too?

Montaguez · 31/10/2023 22:49

It's a pagan festival so any devout Christians must feel uncomfortable about supporting it. Some folks sit in darkness, pretending they are out so no trick is played on them. No wonder people don't want callers but have sweets at the ready as protection.

To be fair, tricks aren't really a thing, not that I've heard of, unless it's unruly teens out without adults. Children with their parents out don't play tricks.

Not so sure about the Christian thing, have a friend of the family who is Catholic, he loves Halloween 🤷‍♀️

x2boys · 31/10/2023 22:50

Jellybean23 · 31/10/2023 22:47

This is such a contrived event. Just an excuse for shops to sell more tat and they've really ramped it up in recent years. It's a pagan festival so any devout Christians must feel uncomfortable about supporting it. Some folks sit in darkness, pretending they are out so no trick is played on them. No wonder people don't want callers but have sweets at the ready as protection. And they are supposed to smile too?

And yet when my son was at his c Catholic primary school.they always had Halloween events and encouraged the kids to dress up, in fact I remember my very religious convent primary school.having Halloween discos in the 70,s and 80,s

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FunnysInLaJardin · 31/10/2023 22:52

not everyone likes or has the time for little kids @WashingAt30

You need to have a word with yourself

OMGitsnotgood · 31/10/2023 22:53

only knock where you know people, problem solved.

Dotcheck · 31/10/2023 22:56

Portakalkedi · 31/10/2023 19:25

Try not knocking on strangers' doors begging for free stuff?

Oh ffs

DeeCee77 · 31/10/2023 22:58

x2boys · 31/10/2023 22:43

Im.very nearly 50 and we always did both when I wss a kid I definitely remember dressing up as a witch and carrying a,turnip.lantern ,,we called it bonfire night though not guy fawkes night ( yes im.aware of the gunpowder plot.)

If you are in England, you are in a tiny minority who celebrated Halloween. Its not an English custom, November 5th is an English custom.

I was at university in England in the 90s and Halloween didn"t exist there. Coming from Ireland (where as the birthplace of Halloween it very much does exist) it was quite a culture shock.

When English ignoramuses say "americanism" in regards to Halloween...I can only think that's because it has been transported from there to England having previously been brought over to North America via Irish and Scots people.

The only thing "american" about Halloween is using a pumpkin instead of a turnip. The phrase "trick or treat" is from Canada, a phrase added to the practice of guising that has been practiced here before we brought it across the Atlantic.

colette1970 · 31/10/2023 23:01

OP you would hate my autistic son everyone got one piece of sweet from the tub if they didn’t say thank you he actually took it back and said learn some manners I bought 3 big tubs of sweets now left with 2 and a bit full, all the little ones got sweets but older ones aged about 12 plus if no manners didn’t get any

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 31/10/2023 23:03

Houses not decorated usually get left alone, or are less likely to be knocked on. You could also just not answer though, I suppose, if people don't pay attention to the lack of decor. I wouldn't answer if I hadn't decorated personally.

We don't do Hallowe'en ourselves, but is that ubiquitously understood that people who might want to decorate their houses for it are thereby also committing themselves to obliging trick or treaters?

A lot of people decorate their homes for Christmas but most of them wouldn't want to be disturbed by carol singers knocking on their door, raising money (even if for charity).

Some neighbourhoods near us have a popular Santa sleigh organised by the local Round Table, but the children have to go out to him when they hear him outside; they don't go around knocking on doors.

I also don't think it's quite as simple as 'no decorating = no trick or treaters', as a lot of children - usually the chancing teenagers - will knock on every door. They aren't doing it for innocent seasonal fun, but because they see it as a time of the year when they are entitled to go out and demand free stuff/sweets/money.

We used to live in a very rough area and we dreaded this every year; I imagine many elderly people would have been absolutely terrified. Please don't be under the illusion that everybody giving 'treats' is doing it with a happy smile; a lot see it as forcibly complying with a protection racket.

They didn't bother dressing up and, if you didn't give them something to 'make it worth their while' - or if you didn't answer the door at all, even if you were out or gone to bed - you would find there had been a 'trick' in the form of something unpleasant and persistent to have to scrub off your door or window the next day.

LoreleiG · 31/10/2023 23:08

Surely anyone answering their door, however monosyllabically, with sweets at Halloween is getting into the spirit of it?

WhichEllie · 31/10/2023 23:08

The replies to this thread are every bit as unhinged as I hoped they would be. They’ve nearly surpassed my wildest dreams of batshit.

x2boys · 31/10/2023 23:08

DeeCee77 · 31/10/2023 22:58

If you are in England, you are in a tiny minority who celebrated Halloween. Its not an English custom, November 5th is an English custom.

I was at university in England in the 90s and Halloween didn"t exist there. Coming from Ireland (where as the birthplace of Halloween it very much does exist) it was quite a culture shock.

When English ignoramuses say "americanism" in regards to Halloween...I can only think that's because it has been transported from there to England having previously been brought over to North America via Irish and Scots people.

The only thing "american" about Halloween is using a pumpkin instead of a turnip. The phrase "trick or treat" is from Canada, a phrase added to the practice of guising that has been practiced here before we brought it across the Atlantic.

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Welll i.don't think you can speak for the whole of England
We definitely celebrated in my part of the northwest of England in the 70,s and 80,s
We also enjoyed Bonfire night whilst eating black peas in a little styro foam cup.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 31/10/2023 23:13

Surely anyone answering their door, however monosyllabically, with sweets at Halloween is getting into the spirit of it?

Not if they live in the kind of place where they know that there will be repercussions if they don't.

LoreleiG · 31/10/2023 23:16

My DM went to school at catholic convents and was brought up in an Irish community in the UK, and calls trick or treating “American”. We did it as kids but only on one road of people we knew.

CharlotteBog · 31/10/2023 23:21

only skimmed the thread. You're getting a hard time OP.
I think most people understand that if a pumpkin is out then the house is happy to have T&Ters knock.
I agree it does them seem strange to be grumpy about it.
I usually have a pumpkin out, but blow it out if I'm about to eat or sit down down with a cuppa or just can't be arsed to get up to the door again.

DeeCee77 · 31/10/2023 23:24

x2boys · 31/10/2023 23:08

Welll i.don't think you can speak for the whole of England
We definitely celebrated in my part of the northwest of England in the 70,s and 80,s
We also enjoyed Bonfire night whilst eating black peas in a little styro foam cup.

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I can, because its documented. Why do you think there's almost nothing about Halloween from TV shows based in England until the 2000s?

Because Halloween, not being an English custom, was not celebrated in England.

Was it celebrated by tiny pockets there? (near the Scottish border, or a family with Irish roots, or a catholic family who don't mark 5th of November), sure, but that's it.

I've grown up (1980s Ireland) with Halloween stuff everywhere. At school (where I believe we are the only nation that has a Halloween break), at home, in the shopping centres, halloween took over. I then went to uni in England in the 90s, and there was nothing.

Mothership4two · 31/10/2023 23:26

sipsqueak · 31/10/2023 22:01

Lol brits in general are very awkward about Halloween. It's a cultural tradition that hasn't quite translated here despite good efforts Smile

I'm an introvert but dishing out treats and attempting to chat to random children doesn't bother me and I quite enjoy the little ones who are usually sweet and chuffed with their costume. We had a few first timers who were adorable and very excited at this new and exciting concept of people handing them a lot of sweets. The bigger ones tend to just want to take the goodies and run. All the parents tonight were friendly and chatty and they all said thank you.

Montaguez · 31/10/2023 23:27

school (where I believe we are the only nation that has a Halloween break

It's not a "Halloween break", it's half-term! Halloween was on a school night after half-term.

Moreempatheticmyarse · 31/10/2023 23:30

DeeCee77 · 31/10/2023 23:24

I can, because its documented. Why do you think there's almost nothing about Halloween from TV shows based in England until the 2000s?

Because Halloween, not being an English custom, was not celebrated in England.

Was it celebrated by tiny pockets there? (near the Scottish border, or a family with Irish roots, or a catholic family who don't mark 5th of November), sure, but that's it.

I've grown up (1980s Ireland) with Halloween stuff everywhere. At school (where I believe we are the only nation that has a Halloween break), at home, in the shopping centres, halloween took over. I then went to uni in England in the 90s, and there was nothing.

All of my english friends in their 40s and 50s went trick or treating as kids - this is spread across middle and southern england so not specifically one area

DeeCee77 · 31/10/2023 23:35

Montaguez · 31/10/2023 23:27

school (where I believe we are the only nation that has a Halloween break

It's not a "Halloween break", it's half-term! Halloween was on a school night after half-term.

https://www.education-ni.gov.uk/articles/school-holidays

School holidays | Department of Education

School term dates for pupils in Northern Ireland.

https://www.education-ni.gov.uk/articles/school-holidays

StarDolphins · 31/10/2023 23:36

We went to a house tonight & there was a big open plastic storage box with about 8 Tupperware boxes inside which all said ‘trick or treat’ & in every box there was something random - lentils, chickpeas, balls of wool, rotten apples….

We just wanted sweets!🤣

DeeCee77 · 31/10/2023 23:41

Moreempatheticmyarse · 31/10/2023 23:30

All of my english friends in their 40s and 50s went trick or treating as kids - this is spread across middle and southern england so not specifically one area

You are giving little anecdotal examples.

As i said, tiny pockets (especially among those with Irish roots or living near the Scottish border).

My Halloween, in the 1980s, was 100% from Ireland/Scotland. The only two additions since then is carving a pumpkin instead of a turnip, and using the phrase "trick or treat" at the door instead of the various regional things we said.

DreamTheMoors · 31/10/2023 23:44

Somewhatchallenging · 31/10/2023 19:21

Aren’t you just going to people you know?

You’d think people would at least stick close to home.
In our small town, people were driving their kids in from other towns to trick-or-treat. There were hundreds of children, and their parents’ cars blocked our street.
It got so bad that we stopped handing out treats altogether and now keep the lights out.
Some folks spoil it for everyone. I felt bad for the kids - it was the parents who were at fault.

Mothership4two · 31/10/2023 23:48

No definitely was not a thing for me either growing up in the West Country in the 70s and 80s or my family in the North East @DeeCee77. Weirdly at my Catholic school the boarders would have a party, which I think was an alternative to Halloween, quite strange as no-one else was doing anything. Bonfire night was celebrated a bit - although our family weren't particularly into that either. Think there were probably a few English pagans quietly celebrating. I think the first time we had trick or treaters was mid 2000s. I think when we "ignorant" English talk about it being an Americanism they mean the huge hoohaa surrounding it which was shown in films and on TV and has now come over here. I didn't realise it had always been an equally massive deal in Ireland although I did know the Scots celebrate it, but didn't think it was always on the scale it is nowadays.

Wheelz46 · 31/10/2023 23:49

Not everyone is comfortable engaging in conversation with every person that knocks on the door.

We always put pumpkins out for kids to come knocking and I consider myself very halloweeney but wouldn't want to be engaging in conversation with every kid that knocked or my door or my door would be permanently open!

Just be grateful that people are choosing to participate in giving your children some sweets, otherwise why bother taking your children trick or treating in the first place!