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Will you be wearing a poppy?

666 replies

thingsthatmakeyougohmmmmmmmm · 29/10/2023 20:00

To support the work that the Royal British Legion do.

Nobody around here seems to be wearing one.

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WrongSwanson · 29/10/2023 21:20

JayAlfredPrufrock · 29/10/2023 21:17

@therealcookiemonster

So now we are to blame for Hitler?

Dear fucking god.

Yes, most historians agree that the rise of Hitler /Nazism was a product of the unique economic and geopolitical circumstances Germany found itself in after ww1.

fyn · 29/10/2023 21:21

Apologies, it’s Scotty’s Little Soliders but I’ve also got my charities mixed up and it’s Little Troopers we benefit from. They provide support to children when their parents are deployed.

WrongSwanson · 29/10/2023 21:21

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/10/2023 21:19

Are people really unaware of the geopolitical reasons for Hitler's rise to power?

Crack a book people.

Quite.
This is why it would be better if people spend time educating themselves about history rather than just virtue signalling with a poppy

Worriedmum159 · 29/10/2023 21:23

mpsw · 29/10/2023 21:17

40% of recruits have a reading age of less than 11 (as reported by Defence Select Committee in 2013) but as the military is UK's single largest provider of adult education (including patching both literacy and numeracy) I'm not sure what the figure is for those leaving the Services. I'm genuinely interested - what's the source of the average reading age being 9?

My focus is on army veterans and I suspect RAF recruits skew this statistic but, I don’t think a reading age of 11 is specifically different to one of 9… the point being that these people need some assistance to access support.

AgaMM · 29/10/2023 21:23

JayAlfredPrufrock · 29/10/2023 21:17

@therealcookiemonster

So now we are to blame for Hitler?

Dear fucking god.

Do you know nothing about the years between WW1 and WW2?

MaggieFS · 29/10/2023 21:23

I do, because I have relatives who died in WWII and it's important to me that they aren't forgotten.
I do, because I've seen first hand how much ex-service personnel have benefitted from a RBL residential home near me.

It sounds like things are far from perfect and that's disappointing, but it's not a reason not to support them IMHO. I also don't feel compelled to do so. I don't look down on anyone who doesn't. Unless you are a member of the government or royal family, I fully support that it's a personal decision. I don't see it as being taken over by any particular group.

Moreover, it's important people understand it's also about more recent wars than WWI & WW2.

wellthisisakward · 29/10/2023 21:23

I've scrolled and read most comments but could someone tell me what the white poppy is for?

QueSyrahSyrah · 29/10/2023 21:23

I haven't worn one since the Woman selling them in the high street loudly declared that I must not care about those who died for us a when I declined to buy one (because I'd bought one the previous day with a generous donation).

As if a bit of paper and plastic pinned to a coat has any real bearing on a person's personal thoughts and remembrance in the first place.

Petrine · 29/10/2023 21:25

I will definitely wear a poppy. We owe so much to those who gave their lives so that we can live ours.

When I travel through France and see the war dead cemeteries I am always moved to tears.

mpsw · 29/10/2023 21:26

Astrabees · 29/10/2023 21:13

No, I stopped buying one once the number of WW2 veterans had dwindled to nearly none. I don’t fell much sympathy for those who signed up voluntarily for later conflicts.

There are still a fair few around (aged about 95+) including some living at the Royal Hospital Chelsea.

The spot where RBL raises most Poppy money in recent years is outside M&S on the King's Road Chelsea - affluent area, shoppers ready to spend, and a spot that is staffed by Pensioners in their scarlets

Starseeking · 29/10/2023 21:26

I'm happy to donate the money and not wear the poppy.

Glendaruel · 29/10/2023 21:27

Yes, in memory of my Great Uncle and in memory of one of the lads who died in Afghanistan, that I last saw at the bar laughing as he drank his beer. In memory of the unknown soldier. In memory of the widows and orphans left behind. It's not about the rights and wrongs of war, it's about the need to remember.

Worriedmum159 · 29/10/2023 21:29

Glendaruel · 29/10/2023 21:27

Yes, in memory of my Great Uncle and in memory of one of the lads who died in Afghanistan, that I last saw at the bar laughing as he drank his beer. In memory of the unknown soldier. In memory of the widows and orphans left behind. It's not about the rights and wrongs of war, it's about the need to remember.

You can do all of that without a poppy. Just FYI.

The poppy seems to abrogate people of any responsibility to remember, campaign, be active, for 355 days of the year. 😤

NeverNotDreaming · 29/10/2023 21:30

Hitler is to blame for his actions. The conditions that allowed him to rise to power were a perfect storm created in the aftermath of WW1.

JaneyGee · 29/10/2023 21:31

Yes, for two reasons. First, in memory of my ancestors. My grandfather volunteered for the RAF the day after Dunkirk fell, and my great grandfather was twice wounded in WW1.

Second, because the smug, sneering, 'woke,' Guardian-reading left hate it. And anything that upsets them makes me happy.

Divebar2021 · 29/10/2023 21:31

Give over with all this bollox about virtue signalling. I don’t see anyone complaining about that when people wear daffodils for Marie Curie cancer or Pink ribbons for breast cancer. It’s promoting a charity and raising awareness. I will wear a metal pin that my organisation produces but they’re not on sale yet. M&S produce a nice sparkly poppy brooch …. Or certainly used to so there’s no need to resort to plastic anything.

AuntMarysPinny · 29/10/2023 21:31

FlorenceBoot · 29/10/2023 20:08

No. Nor will I be going out iof my way to observe the two minutes silence. The World Wars were a long time ago.

Just when I think I've read the stupidest thing on the internet I read this. My nan will be interested to learn that the second world war, which she lived through, is an event of the dim and distant past and unworthy of remembrance. Amazing how her family and friends remember her birthday!

mpsw · 29/10/2023 21:32

Worriedmum159 · 29/10/2023 21:23

My focus is on army veterans and I suspect RAF recruits skew this statistic but, I don’t think a reading age of 11 is specifically different to one of 9… the point being that these people need some assistance to access support.

Apologies for not being clear - I was referring to the only stats I can find and they refer to reading age on recruitment, where a substantial minority have a reading age under 11. They receive further education and remedial help during their time in service, so I would have expected the figure to be lower by the time they are leaving, even if they don't serve for very long. That's why I was interested in the source of information of a higher proportion having an even lower reading age on exit.

The 2013 Defence Select Committee report I mentioned was Army only, btw.

AuntMarysPinny · 29/10/2023 21:32

And yes, I will be wearing my poppy but not in October, give me a chance! The year goes by quickly enough already

Gothambutnotahamster · 29/10/2023 21:33

YourWinter · 29/10/2023 20:02

I will, from 1 November.

Me too.

Lilacdressinggown · 29/10/2023 21:34

Yes. To remember those who gave their today for our tomorrow.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/10/2023 21:34

JaneyGee · 29/10/2023 21:31

Yes, for two reasons. First, in memory of my ancestors. My grandfather volunteered for the RAF the day after Dunkirk fell, and my great grandfather was twice wounded in WW1.

Second, because the smug, sneering, 'woke,' Guardian-reading left hate it. And anything that upsets them makes me happy.

Right wing ownership in action, people. As described by many on here.

Underneaththestars · 29/10/2023 21:34

I started wearing one last week. I wear one every year and will continue to do so.

Gothambutnotahamster · 29/10/2023 21:34

LakeTiticaca · 29/10/2023 20:18

My 23 year old uncle lost his life in WW2. Pretty sure most MNers of a certain age will have grand/great grandparents who served and/or died in WW1/ 2
It's bugger all to do with virtue signalling. It's about those who made the sacrifice for our freedom.
Although I don't doubt, if they could see what the world has now turned into, they would probably ask why the bloody hell they bothered 🤬

Also agree with this!

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/10/2023 21:35

Lilacdressinggown · 29/10/2023 21:34

Yes. To remember those who gave their today for our tomorrow.

That's the other way around.