Dog on the beach

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So I'm here on the beach with two small grandchildren. Just about to sit on the only dry rock (I really NEEDED to sit down) when a smallish dog runs up and tries to pee on it. Grandkids aren't happy with dogs running up to them and peeing on their shoes.

Owner nowhere in sight, although they must have just arrived at beach.

I tell the dog 'No! Off you go!" but it ignores me and carries on sniffing. Total disregard. It cocks a leg, so I take a hold of the collar and guide it away. I'm annoyed, but calm and gentle. It has sprayed over the rock and immediately runs to another part of it to spray again. I repeat, taking collar and pulling dog away. Dog is unconcerned about it and quite happy sniffing everything.

Owner comes up and starts being all passive aggressive. At first I thought he had come to retrieve his dog or apologise, but turns out he wants to accuse me of 'pulling his dog'. I was about to accept his apology, but then had to assure him I was appropriately gentle with his dog but I didn't want dog urine on the children.

He protested that it was a public beach ( presumably giving his dog freedom to pee on anyone) and it didn't look like I was gentle. I again assured him I was gentle and that I have had dogs myself. He replied that that didn't count for HIS dog.

While he was muttering away, his dog squatted and pooped amongst the rocks and I pointed to it and helpfully asked him if he had a bag. He said he did, because he was a RESPONSIBLE dog owner. I replied, 'Excellent!'

He went away complaining to anyone near that I had PULLED his dog and how totally unbelievable it was.

I suffer from extreme anxiety and depression, so I'm venting here to get it out of my system.

I held it together throughout. Dignified, calm, reasonable. Just feeling so angry now.

Bluddy ignorant man.

Sorry but not sorry. No way am I letting any dog pee near me or my children. Tired of dog owners treating animals like kids. U can't go to parks or beaches without dogs pissing and shitting everywhere. Especially with small children that tends to touch or put everything in their mouth. Can't even take kids outside in front of the house as all nearby dogs are there everyday.

I really wish all dog owners were like you! My friends who own dogs have your approach as well. I’m not a dog person but I find some of my friends dogs delightful . My friends make sure they don’t jump up at me or bother me even when I’m at their house, so I’ve actually grown to like some of them.

If all dog owners were like that people, whether they liked dogs or not, would be far more chilled out and relaxed around strange dogs.

I was thinking in the 90s as a child, if a friend had a dog in their house, they’d just tell their parent I was uneasy and their parents would kindly make sure their dog was in another room or in the garden when I came around. I was always grateful as I appreciate they didn’t have to do that.

Contrast with now when I got jumped on by my neighbours dog in our apartment building and it scratched my upper leg. The second time her dog approached me, I asked her to make sure her (off leash) dog didn’t jump on me. She shrugged and said she couldn’t stop it. I said well it needs to be on a leash if it won’t listen to you.

She got really offended and huffy and again refused. It clearly had zero recall but yet it didn’t even have a collar on let alone a leash so she wasn’t even trying! Her attitude was appalling. I don’t know what’s happened between then (the 90s) and now in regards to (some) dog owners, but I don’t like it!

That’s awful about the dog running about the children’s area. Some kids are terrified of strange dogs. Plus an accident could easily happen if it’s jumping around little ones. What an idiotic owner. My friends loves dogs but hates them jumping up at her son,
as sometimes they’ve accidentally knocked him over at parks. Also he’s allergic so his wee face goes all red. I don’t know whether these selfish entitled owners realise they’re ruining it for everyone.

@An1ta

Obviously dog owners should be picking up dog shit. And they should call dogs away if they start approaching people.

But, dogs are going to pee and poo if they are in a park or on a beach, or in any outdoorsy place in general. As long as owners pick the poo up, where is the harm? You say kids touch everything and put fingers in their mouths so dogs shouldn't be allowed to pee outdoors? What about wild animals. Foxes? Badgers? Birds? Deer? Rats? Even if we put nappies on our dogs when we took them for walks, you'd still have all the urine and crap from wild animals to deal with.

No, I read what you said . You want to restrict public areas for dogs, even though you yourself "barely even go outside." And I'm a "dog worshipper" because I think that's pathetic of you.

You didn't say "parks for on-lead dogs only"... you said no dogs whatsoever. Don't rewrite it. Offlead dogs can be disruptive, no question. But to say this park and this street should be dog-free so that a handful of weird dogphobes don't have to look at a well-behaved on-lead pooch with no interest in them whatsoever?

Fine. Go to your private beach and swim in the sea where humans dump their faeces, because you are horrified by the idea of some dog having peed on a rock somewhere.

For some reason, that really did give me the giggles and I'm a dog lover with a dog of my own.
Trying to imagine my dogs confused face as it finds itself airborne 😂

Dogs should be under control wherever they are and unable to piss on people.

Idiotic to say they are just as entitled to be there as humans. As humans don't generally piss around strangers.

But dogs don't go round routinely pissing on people. A couple of instances have been quoted but it must be extremely unusual. Its not an everyday hazard. Dogs piss on things - rocks, trees, lamp posts - which they will still do if they are on the lead.

@LivingOnTeaAndWits

You actually think that a human kicking a dog with enormous force is something to giggle about? Wtf. With such horrific animal cruelty and torture everywhere on a daily basis, how can you find that remotely funny. I pity your dog.

vodkaredbullgirl · Yesterday 13:01

Cloclo93 · Yesterday 12:56

If a dog tried to pee on my shoes or my kids I probably would of booted into the sea lol

Of course you would 🙄

People would where we live 🤣

@LivingOnTeaAndWits

I wouldn't be laughing if someone did that to my dog. Forget the sea, I would kick the animal abuser into the middle of next week.

@CwmYoy
Yep dogs are just as entitled to be in outdoor spaces as humans are. Although dog owners are not entitled to just allow their dogs to wee on people (although this is a very rare occurrence).

@Deathwillbebutapause

Totally agree with you. The disconnect in people's minds between dogs peeing on rocks and 8.1 billion humans dumping shit, piss, plastic, radio active material and christ only knowns what else into rivers, seas, land and air is unreal.

Yep dogs are just as entitled to be in outdoor spaces as humans are.

Maybe we should give them the vote as well. Hilarious.

And I would have returned the action directly back at you. Lol

@CwmYoy

I don't know what's hilarious about dogs, a type of animal, being outside. According to you, I should stop taking mine for a walk on the beach. I live in Lake District. Should I stop taking them up into the mountains as well? Or for lakeside walks? Or for a walk in the woods? Where their wolf ancestors used to roam.

The idea that dogs shouldn't be in outdoor places is hilarious.

You can take your dog to many places, I haven't said you can't. That's all in your head.

All the rest of us ask is that it is kept under control and not allowed to bother us.

Which isn't too much to ask. If you cannot control it off lead then keep it leashed.

@CwmYoy

Well, you were the one who thought it was hilarious when I said that dog owners were entitled to take their pets to beaches if they wanted.

Throughout this whole thread, I have said that dogs should be under control and owners should clean up after them and not take them to beaches that don't allow dogs.

I said it was hilarious that you thought dogs were as entitled as humans. They really aren't. They are just pets.

@CwmYoy

I never said they were as entitled as humans. I said they are entitled to be in outdoor places but only in places where they are allowed and obviously not entitled to jump all over people etc etc.

@CwmYoy

Why do you think humans are superior to other species? Do you believe in the creation theory in the bible or do you have other reasons to think we are masters of the planet. This is a genuine question by the way, I'm not goading. I'm interested in people's opinions on this subject.

Humans are superior to animals. They have intelligence, creativity and imagination.

They write great literature, music and create amazing art work. They explore science and find ways to help people. They are capable of compassion.

So, so much more but if you can't see it what's the point?

It really should, shouldn't it?!

I wouldn't be happy with anyone manhandling my dog. You were hardly sat on a velvet throne - dogs pee on rocks. It's what they do. And as for the passive-aggressive poo bag bullshit, there was no need.

Dogs don’t have compassion-
People who think they do are in for a nasty surprise.
In multi dog households, once a dog becomes old or infirm, he or she is liable to get bullied or worse by the younger dog/s they nudge the old one out.
Dogs sense weakness and can bully or worse.

A stud dog ( Champion ) was severely injured in his dotage by his own son while the owner had popped out.
The dog had to be euthanised due to his injuries

I found this shocking when I was new to dog owning.

( It happened many years ago) but isn’t an unheard of experience- especially if a female in season is nearby.

I watched a video of “ Street dogs” in USA
they formed a “ Heat pack” around one female-
males of all sizes following her about
Massive Pit Bulls and others fighting bloodily to get access to the female-

Thank goodness it’s not as bad in U.K. with strays forming packs.

@CwmYoy

Human intelligence and creativity is not in question. I'm asking why that should make us superior to all other life forms. Everything our species does is only for the benefit of itself. It is of no benefit whatsoever to the planet or any other species on it. In fact it is the extreme polar opposite. Our compassion only extends to other humans. The little compassion we give to other species is merely to undo the harm we have inflicted on them in the first place. No other species is capable of destroying the planet except for ours. If not by war, then by our very existence. Why is that superior.

@CwmYoy

Dogs also feel compassion. So also have a great deal of intelligence. As do most animals really.