Help with provisional license please

[Dvla1]

So, I applied online to get my provisional license. I don’t have an in-date passport, nor do I have a birth certificate! They’ve sent me a form in the post to provide documents for ID, is there any way around this with an expired passport and no birth certificate? I only have 21 days and I'm on day 15 now so no time to renew my passport😣

How long ago did your passport expire?

You'll need to provide: your identity document number. You can use a: UK passport (a passport that expired within the last 12 months can be used for this service)

https://apply-provisional-driving-licence.service.gov.uk/#:~:text=You%27ll%20need%20to%20provide,be%20used%20for%20this%20service)

I though out of date passports could still be classed as photo id. You just can't use them to travel

2019😬 I don’t have anything with photographic ID, which wouldn’t have been a problem if I had my birth certificate, but mum doesn’t have a clue what she done with it!

Can't you get a copy of your birth certificate?

Only if it’s expired within the last 12 months, it’s 3 years out of date

It sais it may not be accepted as anyone can obtain a birth certificate so it could be seen as fraud

Sorry I am clicking to reply to certain people but it doesn’t seem to be working!

Can you just renew your passport then first?

Order a copy of your birth certificate. The one your mum would have had is only a copy of the entry anyway.

Plenty of people apply for provisional licences without passports.

I've helped both of my dc with provisional licences and although they do have passports none of their friends do. We live in an area of deprivation where people do not have passports as a regular thing.

Order ya copy of your birth certificate, you will need one anyway for other things.

I lost my passport and had to get a replacement and it took 7 days from submitting it online to the new one being delivered.