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what are the top 3 things that you think the government should be tackling?

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MentholLoad · 05/10/2023 03:53

after reading various headlines related to the Tory Party Conference and also not related to the conference, I am interested to hear what people think the priorities should be for the government?

because to me they are just mincing around the edges, HS2, smoking bans, so much emphasis on stopping immigrants, post 16 qualifications....huh?

for me, these are the 3 top priorities (subject to change, as I read other people's!)

  1. the NHS
  2. social housing (need more) and rental properties (the STATE that landlords are providing and controlling the cost
  3. poverty....cost of living/wages
  4. the environment....water pollution (water companies discharging sewage to rivers etc) and air pollution
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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 05/10/2023 07:15

*Who will pay for all the AI?

Who will pay for the complex needs of a rising population? Housing, education, health, law enforcement? Will that be cheaper?

Nitgel · 05/10/2023 07:18

Sen education because non investment and crap systems impact the whole of all education
Nhs
Social care

Rainsdropskeepfalling · 05/10/2023 07:19
  1. Climate and the environment.

Some sort of joined up policy! We allow people to build houses without sufficient insulation, with boilers that will need fossil fuels, that don't have solar panels. Our buses and trains are so crap everyone has to drive. We allow our water system to be screwed in every way possible. We are driving species to extinction and noone seems to give a flying f. Our grandchildren are f.

  1. Health and social care.

We have lower mortality rates, live longer but we don't live better. Only the Uber rich will have a good old age because they can afford to buy the help they will need.

  1. Education

Maybe if people understood the environment, understood how our bodies worked, had a curiousity sparked in them at primary school, we would all care and do something about 1&2. Instead you can almost plot the projectory of a kid who struggles with maths at age 6, who doesn't receive the focused, support they need to have access to even a fraction of the life chances that the kid who finds it easier does. And private education just washes its hands of trying to correct the imbalance

I'm tired of the "I'm all right Jack" mentality. I want to live somewhere with a sense of society. I don't want to live in the UK.

ReeseWitherfork · 05/10/2023 07:21
  1. Climate change
  2. Wealth inequality
  3. Public health

3… because the NHS treats us when we are ill. We need more effective services that prevent us getting ill in the first place.

EasternStandard · 05/10/2023 07:26

Energy security - all forms

Water security and food

Border situation

Basically think ahead to next five / ten / twenty years

Do that whilst growing economy to pay for public services

pilates · 05/10/2023 07:26

Education
Environment/pollution
Benefit cheats/people that abuse the system

How can it ever be fair to earn more not working than working? I am
not talking about disabled people btw.

echt · 05/10/2023 07:29

MentholLoad · 05/10/2023 05:59

I got free uni in the mid 90s

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I was thinking of the criticism of early retirees and pensioners and their free uni education.

EasternStandard · 05/10/2023 07:30

Also work out how to get taxes from incoming AI growth

echt · 05/10/2023 07:31

Brumbies · 05/10/2023 06:50

Immigration
Immigration
Immigration

You say this as if anyone reading it would know what you mean.

What do you mean?

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MentholLoad · 05/10/2023 07:36

I think Climate Change is a lost cause. We just won't make the changes necessary without societal collapse initiating it

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panelbottle · 05/10/2023 07:37

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat no I'm asking what you think has caused the growth?

panelbottle · 05/10/2023 07:38

Who will pay for the complex needs of a rising population? Housing, education, health, law enforcement? Will that be cheaper?

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat why do you think AI will mean we don't need housing or education?

panelbottle · 05/10/2023 07:40

Again, short term solutions leading to long term problems.

I'm not advocating for a baby boom but you are deluded if you think having a largely older population is economically sustainable. We have the issue now but I don't see AI dealing with it...

EasternStandard · 05/10/2023 07:41

A lot of stuff is for now, and just dividing the pie in slightly different ways, but things will change so best get prepared

cheeseandsaladcreamtoastie · 05/10/2023 07:42

Social care/NHS
Cost of living
Illegal immigration

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 05/10/2023 07:45

panelbottle · 05/10/2023 07:40

Again, short term solutions leading to long term problems.

I'm not advocating for a baby boom but you are deluded if you think having a largely older population is economically sustainable. We have the issue now but I don't see AI dealing with it...

No, you are are advocating importing a ready made workforce, ignoring the fact that they too will get old, that they too will have families and will bring their families with them.

snickersandmarsandbounty · 05/10/2023 07:52

This corrupt Government cannot tackle anything I want them to call a general election so we have a party that will start to undo the dreadful damage done to the NHS, public services, education, policing, social care…

JaninaDuszejko · 05/10/2023 07:56

For those that are saying knife crime, there's been some interesting multiagency work done in Glasgow to reduce violent crime based on a public health approach that is making good progress. That should probably be copied in other big cities with a lot of knife crime.

Original poster
MentholLoad · 05/10/2023 07:59

JaninaDuszejko · 05/10/2023 07:56

For those that are saying knife crime, there's been some interesting multiagency work done in Glasgow to reduce violent crime based on a public health approach that is making good progress. That should probably be copied in other big cities with a lot of knife crime.

yeah, I think knife crime and crime in general gets tackled by tackling poverty, housing, healthcare, education and public services etc, doesn't it. it's a symptom

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Original poster
MentholLoad · 05/10/2023 07:59

snickersandmarsandbounty · 05/10/2023 07:52

This corrupt Government cannot tackle anything I want them to call a general election so we have a party that will start to undo the dreadful damage done to the NHS, public services, education, policing, social care…

I agree.

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BarbaraofSeville · 05/10/2023 08:02

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 05/10/2023 07:45

No, you are are advocating importing a ready made workforce, ignoring the fact that they too will get old, that they too will have families and will bring their families with them.

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This. Why do people always think that the answer to an aging population is for more babies to be born and more immigration, while ignoring the fact that one day those people will get old and need even more babies to be born and more people to come from overseas to care for them and pay taxes to pay their pensions. It's a pyramid scheme that's already showing signs of collapse. Imagine the state of it in 10/50/100 years time.

But the other thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned is a less London/SE centric outlook and genuine investment and shift in demand to the rest of the UK.

A lot of the problems in London, particularly very high cost housing, are much less of an issue in other areas, so reducing demand in London and genuine investment in housing and infrastructure (transport, public services) in the regions will help the population as a whole.

panelbottle · 05/10/2023 08:05

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat I'm not advocating for importing a workforce. I'm saying immigration is not going away, there isn't a currently alternative so we don't have a choice.

Over 70s are predicted to grow by 2% yr on yr for the next decade. There are already over 150,000 vacancies in social care & AI is not plugging the gap for some time.

panelbottle · 05/10/2023 08:06

This. Why do people always think that the answer to an aging population is for more babies to be born and more immigration, while ignoring the fact that one day those people will get old and need even more babies to be born and more people to come from overseas to care for them and pay taxes to pay their pensions. It's a pyramid scheme

Why do people not understand the pyramid is upside down....

Original poster
MentholLoad · 05/10/2023 08:07

panelbottle · 05/10/2023 08:05

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat I'm not advocating for importing a workforce. I'm saying immigration is not going away, there isn't a currently alternative so we don't have a choice.

Over 70s are predicted to grow by 2% yr on yr for the next decade. There are already over 150,000 vacancies in social care & AI is not plugging the gap for some time.

can someone explain how AI will plug the gap, for so I'll care?

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fishfingersandtoes · 05/10/2023 08:09
  1. Climate change
  2. Cost of living
  3. NHS/ social care