Have you ever found yourself cheering on the villain?

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In a book, tv show or movie?

I usually find the villains to be more interesting than the heroes but generally I'm happy for the heroes when they achieve their goal but I find it incredibly hard to root for The Three Musketeers because they're so unlikeable and because of their blatant misogny. I appreciate that it was written a long time ago and set even earlier but I found myself wanting Milady to win.

Have you found yourself liking a villain more than the hero(es)?

Came on to say Thanos too

Skorpa, Skade, Bloodhair, all from The Last Kingdom.

Brida too, I cried so much for her when first Ragnar was killed, then Vibeke died (that was really hard to take).

Then when Stiorra killed Brida, I hope she was reunited with Ragnar and her daughter, but Uhtred's heartbreak when she died.

Hannibal. Possibly because it is Mads, but Hannibal is an excellent cook, snappy dresser and excellent wit😍

Annie Joyce in Patricia Wentworth’s The Traveller Returns

Just read this a couple weeks ago and I fully agree! I was hoping she would do a runner like the villain character in an earlier book.

George Costanza from Seinfeld (not really a villain just an awful self absorbed person)

Omar Little and Stringer Bell in The Wire

Tony Soprano but he pushed it too far with Andriana

Marquise Isabelle de Merteuil in Dangerous Liaisons

JR in Dallas

Alexis Colby in Dynasty

Max Verstappen in the Japanese Grand Prix

I often do, but I think they have to be an underdog in some way. Some of the examples already mentioned have reminded me, Horrible Henry but I don't think he was a villain anyway, he had emotionally abusive parents and a horrid sister. Breaking Bad - not just Jesse but even Walt to some extent, though most characters had their good and bad sides. I only watched it in lockdown and loved it - so much symbolism.

I watched it when it first started and watched it all again with my son. I really didn’t like Berlin at first but OMG, now I adore him 😂😉
There is a new series starting in December called Berlin. I can’t wait.

I won’t spoil anything for you but yes, I loved how ingenious the Professor was and I really wanted them to triumph.

🤣🤣

Hannibal! Hopkins and Mikkelsen made him sooooo attractive!

Horrid Henry is an anti-hero not a villain. His little brother Perfect Peter is a manipulative little sneak.

Omar, Hannibal, and Dexter - love 'em all!!

Ursula. She unapologetically takes up as much space as she damn well needs and does it all in a black wiggle dress and red lipstick. She's a queen.

Dexter - could never see him as a villain (crazy I know)

Damon from Vampire Diaries

I also agree re Anakin

Tony Soprano, I got far too emotionally attached to that fictional character and was bereft when it ended!

Amazing Amy in Gone Girl. I loved her and thought of her as an anti-heroine rather than villain. Nick was such a tedious shit.

JR from Dallas

it was originally planned that he and Sue Ellen would be background characters. They often weren’t even given lines so made them up (calling each other a variety of names) and ended up as the stars of the show

I don't think I've ever rooted for a villain.

I admire Becky Sharpe at the beginning of Vanity Fair. She needed to carve her own way in the world. But then she goes too far for me. I don't think she needed to trample over everyone.
But I don't like Amelia either. Far too wet and the hero worship of her useless dead husband is maddening.

Dracula. Every single incarnation 🖤

Maybe I have

Oh yeah totally agree. What did Marty call her? A power hungry bitch? She was certainly that!

Also Serena and Aunt Lydia in The Handmaid's Tale. I got fed up of June and her gurning in to the camera. Serena and Lydia are far more complex and interesting. I've been rooting for them to turn against Gilead.

Fanny is a boring prig and Edmund is a boring prick.

Did Mansfield Park for A level. We all thought Fanny was a drip and Edmund was a prig. They deserved each other.

Jesse is not a villain! Now, Gustavo Fring is a villain but I kinda like his smooth calm coldness.

Tom in Tom and Jerry. I hated that smug mouse.

Coyote. He was so funny and Road runner annoyed me.

Sylvester - Tweety Pie was pathetic.

But I hated Elmer fud and was always pleased that Bugs got the better of him!