Have you ever found yourself cheering on the villain?

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In a book, tv show or movie?

I usually find the villains to be more interesting than the heroes but generally I'm happy for the heroes when they achieve their goal but I find it incredibly hard to root for The Three Musketeers because they're so unlikeable and because of their blatant misogny. I appreciate that it was written a long time ago and set even earlier but I found myself wanting Milady to win.

Have you found yourself liking a villain more than the hero(es)?

I love Flambo in father Brown

I know she's not really a villain. And I know it's the point of the book but Rebecca.

Agree with the Alan Rickman comment. Every time I watch Die Hard I can’t believe we’re supposed to be rooting for obnoxious meathead Bruce Willis instead of clever, witty, sexy Alan. Same with Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.

I can probably think of more; villains often seem to be more interestingly written and played by more charismatic actors than the heroes.

Moriarty in the Sherlock tv series (couldn’t be anything to do with him being played by Andrew Scott of course 😜). He is so evilly twisted, much more interesting than know-it-all Sherlock

Emily (?) in ‘For Her Sins’. Jo Joyners character got away with murder and we were supposed to feel sorry for her because she was married with 2 kids. I love Rachel Shenton and wish Laura/Catherine had had a proper comeuppance!

Ken was the villain in Barbie wasn't he 😀

Very obscure, but 30 plus years ago the wonderful Diana rig was In something called mother I think ? She killed the’ other woman ‘ at the time I was thick in a horrendous divorce and couldn’t truly see anything wrong with it !🤣🤣

I was on Alex's side in Fatal Attraction, mainly because Beth was such a vapid little housewife.

Becky Sharp in Vanity Fair, and Mary and Henry Crawford in Mansfield Park, as other posters have said, because they are all so much more fun than the very dull and worthy heroes and heroines. I know who I would rather go to the pub with.

Annie Joyce in Patricia Wentworth’s The Traveller Returns because she was clever, and audacious, had been treated shabbily by her rich relations, then cheated of a promised inheritance and finally abandoned to the mercies of the Germans during the invasion of France.

Becoming an imposter, a fraudster, an accessory to murder and being up to her neck in espionage and treason still doesn’t make her an unsympathetic character. I still want her to have got away with it!

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Frequently. I’ve always enjoyed evil, mouse-loving Count Fosco in The Woman in White, who at least appreciates fabulous Marian Halcombe, and Charlotte Mullen (The Real Charlotte) is one of my favourite literary characters.

I wish Somerville & Ross had written a sequel. I would love to have known what happened after Norry the Boat delivered the shocking news……Charlotte, Mr Lambert, Hawkins …what did they do?

I had a lot of sympathy for Maria Rushworth. She deserves her own book. Maybe I will write it some day.

Yes. The movie Matchpoint.

Malcolm Tucker. Love a bit of righteous anger, when it's not directed at me!

I also came on to say Tom... Jerry was an annoying twat.

Not sure why people are saying Jesse in BB: surely the whole point is that he, a druggie little layabout to begin with, was ultimately the only one with any moral fibre, showing extreme remorse and regret for everything. He was also a pretty loyal friend and business partner throughout, as well as brother and nephew.

I always rooted for Cersei Lannister in GOT - couldn’t bare Daenerys from episode 1.

Came on to say this. Patricia Highsmith is a great writer.

Definitely

A bit like Roadrunner and Lambsey in it's the Wolf

Love Patrick Bateman. Not really but something about him was so perfect that he kind of deserved to thrive as an apex predator.

I genuinely worried I was a psychopath when I sympathised with the killer in seven

JR in Dallas
I wished I could be a horrible and get away with it ! Lol

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Tony Soprano. The violence in the sopranos could be shocking but when it was a baddie on the receiving end I really got on board with it!

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Also Gul Dukat on occasion - such a marvellous opportunity for a redemption arc wasted!

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Totally agreed - great character.
And Tom (Tom and Jerry )

Captain Jack Sparrow 🥰

Recently read Where the Crawdads Sing and found myself cheering on the villain in that.