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To wish people wouldn't post things on SM headed "Lost my little girl today..."

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CurlewKate · 17/09/2023 16:05

...and mean their dog or cat? My SIL did it yesterday- and for an awful moment I thought she meant one of my nieces. Obviously I quickly realised I wouldn't have heard like that- but it was a a real shock for a second. People do it on here too...
Just me? Is everyone quicker on the uptake than me?

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pinksunglasses · 17/09/2023 17:16

You can’t expect people to police their language in order to never make anyone uncomfortable. I’d never intentionally try and upset anyone but second guessing myself all the time to avoid ever making anyone ‘lurch’, no. I’d not expect that of anyone else either.

If you don’t like how somebody expresses themselves or you find them offensive, mute/unfollow/whatever.

saraclara · 17/09/2023 17:17

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 17/09/2023 16:53

I can't comment on SM generally, but on Mumsnet, if it's posted in The Doghouse or Litter Tray, isn't it obviously going to be about a pet?

If it's in active, the branch that it can be found on is in a smaller, lighter font than the OP title. You see the title well before you see what branch it's on.

It might only take a couple of seconds, but it's long enough for the involuntarily, instinctive heart lurch to happen.

Johnnylewis · 17/09/2023 17:18

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/09/2023 16:48

Have people always referred to dogs and cats as boys and girls? It seems like a recent trend to me, and a very odd one, given that they are not human, by definition, but then I am old, and don't have dogs or cats or any other pets. We had a dog when I was a child. We were fond of her, but she was nothing like as important to any of us as the human members of the household.

I don't think they have, no. It's all part of the recent trend to anthropomorphise pets. Doggy ice cream, my darling girl, dogs allowed anywhere and everywhere.

I don't know why it's happened but it definitely has.

BonnyHonny · 17/09/2023 17:20

bellac11 · 17/09/2023 16:47

Try not to police people's language.

It's not Policing language. It's something that doesn't apply to language at all. The people saying 'my child, my son, my boy etc etc' in regards to an animal aren't using language to fit their lives, they're just making shit up. There are current terms that are actual language like dog, cat, rabbit.

Language is a complex shared way of communication which is structured, and encompasses speech, writing and gestures. Where most if not everyone know what you're referring to by the terms they are commonly known by.

You can't just make shit up and say it's language when it isn't 🙄

saraclara · 17/09/2023 17:20

Sleepo · 17/09/2023 16:58

Completely agree, op. It's particularly thoughtless on a forum where people do discuss the loss of babies and children.

Yes, sadly mumsnet is a place where OPs about the loss of a child do happen. So these posts really jar here.

Redebs · 17/09/2023 17:22

Yes, it's ridiculous.
People going through loss of a job, pet or home are of course going to be distressed, but to compare if to the loss of a child is absurdly selfish.

saraclara · 17/09/2023 17:23

cuckyplunt · 17/09/2023 16:48

Posted in “the litter tray” it’s a clue!

Only if you're reading a version of mumsnet where active and trending lists include the source branch.

In fact I don't think any of the versions include the branch in trending.

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 17/09/2023 17:23

saraclara · 17/09/2023 17:17

If it's in active, the branch that it can be found on is in a smaller, lighter font than the OP title. You see the title well before you see what branch it's on.

It might only take a couple of seconds, but it's long enough for the involuntarily, instinctive heart lurch to happen.

But you must get this same 'lurch' when it turns out the thread is genuinely about a child - is it the waste of a lurch that is the problem, because you don't think a pet is worthy of it? On a site like this, it's inevitable some threads will be upsetting.

EstieGreenwood · 17/09/2023 17:26

How about you read it, very quickly realize they’re talking about a pet, roll your eyes if that’s what your cold heart tells you to do, and then move on to find something else to judge?

pinksunglasses · 17/09/2023 17:26

I think trying to create a lurch free world 🙄would be an impossible task. Better to just accept the odd lurch. 🤷🏼‍♀️

KittyKingdom · 17/09/2023 17:28

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JaneJeffer · 17/09/2023 17:30

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/09/2023 16:48

Have people always referred to dogs and cats as boys and girls? It seems like a recent trend to me, and a very odd one, given that they are not human, by definition, but then I am old, and don't have dogs or cats or any other pets. We had a dog when I was a child. We were fond of her, but she was nothing like as important to any of us as the human members of the household.

People have always said good boy or girl to dogs but they never used to refer to a dog as my boy/girl until recently.

CurlewKate · 17/09/2023 17:30

@EstieGreenwood I'm not judging. I'm talking about my reaction. Obviously I am hugely sympathetic to anyone whose pet dies-I've been there myself several times.

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JaneJeffer · 17/09/2023 17:31

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People post threads immediately about their loved ones dying all the time. I've seen plenty on here over the years.

GoFaster83 · 17/09/2023 17:32

Erm...
"Good boy!"
"Who's a good girl!?"

Literally the most classic dog phrases ever bar adding in rover or fido

Desecratedcoconut · 17/09/2023 17:33

JaneJeffer · 17/09/2023 17:31

People post threads immediately about their loved ones dying all the time. I've seen plenty on here over the years.

Yes, me too. And thankfully the replies garner more sympathy than calling them a weirdo.

Sleepo · 17/09/2023 17:33

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This is a really horrible post and I’ve reported it. People do post like this sometimes. I’ve not been in that situation so don’t know the thought process but presumably it’s about looking for support rather than being a weirdo. What on earth is wrong with you?

KittyKingdom · 17/09/2023 17:34

JaneJeffer · 17/09/2023 17:31

People post threads immediately about their loved ones dying all the time. I've seen plenty on here over the years.

Are you honestly saying that someone would lose their baby and that day they go on mumsnet and tell strangers about it. I have never seen it. Ever.

bellac11 · 17/09/2023 17:37

BonnyHonny · 17/09/2023 17:20

It's not Policing language. It's something that doesn't apply to language at all. The people saying 'my child, my son, my boy etc etc' in regards to an animal aren't using language to fit their lives, they're just making shit up. There are current terms that are actual language like dog, cat, rabbit.

Language is a complex shared way of communication which is structured, and encompasses speech, writing and gestures. Where most if not everyone know what you're referring to by the terms they are commonly known by.

You can't just make shit up and say it's language when it isn't 🙄

Language is 'made up', over 100s and 1000s of years but it is made up by humans and changes all the time.

Lots of people refer to their pets as boy and girl, its not new and not uncommon.

You are trying to tell people what language to use about their own lives and circumstances.

Redebs · 17/09/2023 17:37

People might call their pet 'good girl', but there's no excuse declaring 'my girl died' when all that has happened is your dog is dead.

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 17/09/2023 17:40

Redebs · 17/09/2023 17:37

People might call their pet 'good girl', but there's no excuse declaring 'my girl died' when all that has happened is your dog is dead.

If you are on a pet-specific topic, this is perfectly reasonable. It's not the poster's fault if others don't check the topic.

Calistano · 17/09/2023 17:40

In the past people on here weren't strangers to each other (not me, not much of a joiner). People liked and supported each other and talked without everything being a chance to put each other down and get one over on someone, or be snarky bitches.

JaneJeffer · 17/09/2023 17:41

Yes that's what I said @KittyKingdom you may not have seen it but I have

Sleepo · 17/09/2023 17:42

There are posts like this on the bereavement board right now.

Redebs · 17/09/2023 17:43

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 17/09/2023 17:40

If you are on a pet-specific topic, this is perfectly reasonable. It's not the poster's fault if others don't check the topic.

It's a parenting forum.
Just say your dog or cat died.
It's not a baby or a child.