9/11 - what happened to the planes?

[myyve]

Thinking on from that awful day after the anniversary yesterday, one thought has come to mind.

What happened to the planes and those onboard, once they were flown into the twin towers? I know this probably does sound silly and I'm so sorry if it comes across as ignorant, but I truly do not know, and the internet doesn't mention anything, either..

Did they come to a crash landing afterwards? Or did they continue flying? What actually happened to the plane and those poor souls on board?

@SoIinvictus did you mean to be so rude? It actually took me a while to write out my post and it wasn't mentioned in the first page when I started. I do apologise your majesty! 🙄

Don't feel bad for asking op. There's no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer.

"so long ago" - it was 2001, not 1901, ffs! I can only presume you are twelve.

Don't be sorry. Some people live to be offended and I wonder: how do we learn things if we're too afraid to ask a question? .... I got that you wondered if the planes 'came through' the other side after they crashed into the buildngs and/or if there was any plane debris found.

It's not bad taste, OP. If it were, there would be no media presentations of anything related to that awful day - and there are plenty!

But yes, there was nothing left of anyone or anything to have emerged the other side of the buildings.

Have you seen the videos? What do you think happened? What a weird question honestly use your brain

The two that crashed into the Twin Towers disintegrated.

Don't know exactly what happened to the debris from the other two or if there was any debris remaining, if I remember correctly there was footage of only a burnt out area where they crashed.

Wowsers! I’m only 2 pages in but the nastiness on this thread is blowing my mind!! Why are people so unwilling to give an answer?

Yes, OP could Google it, but she says she has and didn’t understand. What’s wrong with seeing if someone else can explain it in a way that she does get it? Many of us here will remember 9/11 in real time, so it’s possible she’ll get a more realistic description than something she can find elsewhere.

I’m now almost 50 and one of the things I’ve learnt about me as I get older is that I’m not actually thick as I thought for many years. However, I learn through discussion, much better than watching or reading something. I like to get people’s interpretations or opinions, work my own out from that, then go to the theory to check it.

This is all the OP is doing, why the nastiness? if all you’re going to do is sneer ‘google it!’ Then you are a flipping cockwomble!

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@myyve it's OK to ask questions. As I mentioned previously, I know two people who were there at the time and lived through it. Awful beyond description and impossible to forget. For a lot of 2002 and beyond I was (and continue to be) affected by the events of that day. But I'm not offended by your question.

Conspiracy theories and cruel humour about it affect me very deeply. But it's OK to ask questions. x

@SoIinvictus actually this was posted exactly on the same page as my comment, so my commentary on the planes was in fact warranted!

Research for a case study you're working on... so you're asking on a Mumsnet thread? Really? I find it highly unlikely you couldn't have obtained information on 9/11 online.

This is what I came on to say, we were there watching it on tv and she was two wearing nappies and playing with toys.

Lots of people don’t know about it.

@myyve some of us watching genuinely thought it was a film scene or movie clip. I certainly did.

@ThickSkinnedSoWhat I have explained further down thread why I have asked the question I did.

OP has said she was 2 at the time. To me her question is akin to someone asking older people about fighting in WW2. She wants accounts from people who remember it happening. It's important that the stories are told.

Google, like the rest of the world

Then google it.

If you're conducting genuine research, how are you putting Mumsnet down as a reference? Just looki the information up from reputable sources, there's literally hours of footage available, the crash investigation reports, coroners reports etc are all available if you just take 2 seconds to bother looking 🙄
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-911REPORT/pdf/GPO-911REPORT.pdf

Most of you are referencing documentaries and articles that exist as a result of someone being curious, asking questions people want answers to and drawing out the personal elements that make something interesting to us, as humans.

Sometime it was also people's jobs - aviation crashes have people who's job is looked at what happened - structural engineers like to learn from mistakes - reporter and film makers job is to make content people want.

The documentaries are out there and are full of actual information not random internet users opinions.

TBH an actual researcher I would expect to be tracking down research papers and structural reports not watching documentaries or reading newspaper reports which would give a more general picture - so assume it's a more general information so many of the documentaries pointed to I assume would actually be helpful to the OP.

I don't think MN was best place to ask such a question but at same time I a bit bemused so many have found it so offensive.

@SoIinvictus but many of them have posted the incorrect information.

Saying you were only 2 when it happened is not exactly an excuse for being utterly clueless about the biggest act of terrorism in history.

My son was 2, the other not born. But they would be well able to describe what happened that day, and certainly what happened to the planes and their occupants.

I didn't intend on it being an excuse, however I wasn't old enough to view the events as they happened like many others were.

@Ohmylovejune @strugglingtomanage

There is evidence there was a 5th plane. Not sure if it's been mentioned yet. But this plan never took off. There were suspicious people who fit the description of the other attackers who were in first class ready to take off from JFK. It didn't take off due to all the attacks grounding all other planes. They were very agitated when the plane didnt take off. Box cutters were found in their seats and alkaida (spent wrong?) documents were found in their luggage.

@Seychal

What would have happened to the engines though? Presumably if an instantaneous detachment some residual thrust would have moved them on inside the building? Or would an immediate loss of pressure negate that? I only ask because I did read a report years ago that two engines minus their casings were found in the streets below. I always presumed this was due to residual thrust rather than just momentum.

The moment the fuel supply was lost (so at impact) there would have been pretty much zero thrust...so where the engine (cores) went would have been mainly be down to momentum and also the influence of any collisions with building structure..

If I recall it correctly in one of the videos of the second impact you can see one of the engines traveling in arc beyond the towers.

@myyve https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-6279f222e377ad1d41bc741934d2384c/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-6279f222e377ad1d41bc741934d2384c.pdf

The detail is in the above. This may give you most of the answers you are looking for. I have no problem with you asking on here though.

@notimagain I think my earlier question to you is answered in this report.