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How to tell friend I don't want her dog to come on holiday??

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Otins · 03/09/2023 21:09

I've been away on holiday for the last few years with a friend - she has a dog who has come with us. This has been basic self catering in the UK, so pretty cheap. (I've known this friend for 30 years and she has had a dog for the last 6 years. We have been away for the last 3 years but I have regularly been to stay at her house for 10+ years)

I am not a dog person, but I tolerate her dog, because I know he is very important to her. I don't actively engage with her dog unless I have to.

She has asked me to go to the Scilly Isles. I would LOVE to go to the Scilly Isles and had assumed this would be without Fido. I asked her outright, as she has been sending me links to pet friendly holiday lets, and she would take the dog with her, travelling there by train and boat.

I don't like dogs. I find them a bit stinky and I hate the hairs everywhere.
They are SO restrictive on holiday as you can't leave them on their own in the accommodation to pop out for a coffee, a meal etc. At least when I visit her home she can put him in his crate for a few hours.

I don't like the current trend for dog-friendly shops and restaurants etc. I'd much rather go somewhere without dogs.

The thought of picking up warm dog poo makes me want to vomit. I hate that my friend has bags of poo in her hand for half of our walks.

I sometimes get left 'holding the dog' if we are out and she needs to pop into a shop that doesn't welcome dogs.

I don't agree with her dog 'parenting' and the dog is often off lead when for safety I think he should be on lead....and this means I can't relax, as if anything happened to him she would be beside herself. He was knocked down a couple of years ago and he was off lead and ran after a cat, straight in front of a car, and she was devastated. Luckily the dog wasn't too badly hurt, although the car driver was very distressed.

She lets him go out of her sightline when he is off lead, so how can she know what he is doing? She lets him go up to other people when they show no interest in dogs (I HATE it when other dogs / dog owners do this to me) His recall is good, but not good enough to be off lead so much (in my not-a-dog-owner opinion....I get that dog owners may have no truck with this opinion)

She trots out the "oh, he's very friendly" line when people seem affronted that her off-lead dog has wondered up to them.

I have tolerated this for cheap UK breaks as it means I get to spend time with my friend, and she gets a holiday. But The Isles of Scilly are much more expensive and I would resent spending that much money to not be able to truly relax, and to feel like I am compromising all week.

I know that I could ask her not to take Fido, and she may do this (she has left him with family to go to Europe on holiday - when she couldn't take Fido with her)....but she will be so miserable without him, and the Isles of Scilly keep saying on their web page how dog friendly they are* so she will resent it if she goes without Fido.

*Maybe this means I shouldn't visit at all!

There's no way this is going to work, is there? I'll resent it with the dog. She will resent it without the dog. I should just tell her I can't go....but how, without telling her I don't like her dog. And what happens when I book to go on my own at some point...how do I justify that???

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AndStand · 04/09/2023 17:36

Gh12345 · 04/09/2023 17:20

You sound like fun 😂

Why? Because she'd prefer a dog free holiday?

Katmai · 05/09/2023 15:35

Ineedasitdown · 04/09/2023 14:19

Well you are merely wrong imo. This was conversational not a diagnosis. Ever thought of getting help for that irritability?

I only get irritated by irritating things. Which on threads like this is most of the time.

Boredombeckons · 05/09/2023 22:05

@Katmai I do think you're visibly overreacting. You read "anxiety" and jumped to medically diagnosed GAD and its related diagnoses, when really anxiety is still very commonly used in the real world and the English language for things like a moment of worry/tension/feeling unsettled.

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Boredombeckons · 05/09/2023 22:10

@Katmai and having GAD myself, I'm well aware of the psychiatric/medical distinction between anxiety and worry! But anxiety has been used colloquially for hundreds of years. It's like how in normal conversation, it's okay to let people say someone is ill or feeling ill without correcting them about the medical distinction between illness/sickness/disease/etc.

skylerwhitejunior · 05/09/2023 22:18

You're massively overthinking this and there was no need for you to go into so much detail about you hating dogs. We get it.

You don't want to go on this holiday, so don't go.

That doesn't mean you can't ever go to the Isles of Scilly, honestly just start a dog bashing thread if that's what you want to do instead of wasting time with this disingenuous crap.

DebsSmithy887 · 05/09/2023 22:22

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Katmai · 05/09/2023 22:24

Boredombeckons · 05/09/2023 22:05

@Katmai I do think you're visibly overreacting. You read "anxiety" and jumped to medically diagnosed GAD and its related diagnoses, when really anxiety is still very commonly used in the real world and the English language for things like a moment of worry/tension/feeling unsettled.

The irony being, of course, that they OP hasn't used the word to describe herself at all, and having just re-read all her posts, the clear impression is of stress, frustration, and irritation at having to spend her entire holiday with a dog that's not hers, and which is allowed to run about off the lead annoying passers-by and causing road accidents. The OP shows no sign of anxiety or worry - she's pissed off.

Boredombeckons · 05/09/2023 22:28

Katmai · 05/09/2023 22:24

The irony being, of course, that they OP hasn't used the word to describe herself at all, and having just re-read all her posts, the clear impression is of stress, frustration, and irritation at having to spend her entire holiday with a dog that's not hers, and which is allowed to run about off the lead annoying passers-by and causing road accidents. The OP shows no sign of anxiety or worry - she's pissed off.

Hmm just imo the vast majority of people would consider not being able to relax and fretting about an accident worry/anxiety (even if mild) in the colloquial sense. That can coexist with being pissed off too. Anyway since we're being pedantic that's not what irony means lol

Anewnamea · 06/09/2023 06:45

enchantedsquirrelwood · 04/09/2023 16:58

There have been lots of threads on here over the years where parents have insisted on brining their kids along for things that were meant to be adults-only; or brought their husbands when it was meant to be a girlie night out.

Yeah it’s annoying…There’s always going to be rude or super entitled people in this world but I think for the most part people are OK with it and understand it completely.

And even if a few people may be difficult it’s still important to voice what you want, the same as people very often say something is adults only or a “girly” or “lads” night.

If someone tries to cross that boundary then you deal with that. But it’s not a reason not to mention it to begin with.

In fact it’s a shame Op didn’t make it clear from the outset. I don’t even go for local walks with my friends if they bring their dogs and I’ve made that clear so this kind of situation wouldn’t even occur. They’d know only to invite me to a dog free holiday.

Tartantotty · 26/09/2023 17:15

It's her holiday, so just turn her down gently and maybe say you have other plans/skint etc.

saltnsaucey · 26/09/2023 17:36

Sorry to be simplistic but you just say ‘I’d rather the dog didn’t come on holiday’. If you have known her a while, she should understand.

saltnsaucey · 26/09/2023 17:52

Just realised how old this thread is. You may have already had the holiday with or without the dog!

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