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Primary teacher filmed kicking and hitting horse found innocent

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SushiSuave · 25/08/2023 17:12

I never start threads about things in the news but this has shocked me. How on earth has this woman been found innocent when she was filmed kicking and hitting the horse?! I don't believe she caused lasting injury but surely being found innocent is condoning treating animals in this way?

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bluewanda · 25/08/2023 22:02

Shame on the jury members who cleared her. I wasn’t in court but I’ve watched the video, which tells me everything I need to know!

Clymene · 25/08/2023 22:05

poorlyarm · 25/08/2023 22:02

My point is this was probably not a 'regular' thing. The pony buggered off, the sabs were hounding her (excuse the pun) and she just lost her shit in a very stressful situation.

For all I know she could be a complete psycho but I'm not really seeing that for sure here.

That's the line people trot out when men hit their wives.

I bet if this had been a 16 hand horse she wouldn't have treated it like that.

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SushiSuave · 25/08/2023 22:10

poorlyarm · 25/08/2023 21:50

Ex hunting / horse person here. I'm in two minds about this because while I agree she obviously lost her shit and should not have done it, it seems extreme what's happened to her.

What are people expecting that they should put her in prison and throw away the key?

The pony is clearly very well cared.

Nope, but a ban from owning animals would be a start to protect any other animals from harm at her fists hands.

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ADealingMummy · 25/08/2023 22:12

She looks like a complete bully , who has taken out her frustrations on a horse.

Amortentia · 25/08/2023 22:16

I can’t believe she was found not guilty. There are better ways to manage an out of control horse, she’s clearly just lost her temper and is taking it out on the horse. I wonder what the outcome would have been if it had been a dog. I think people think because it’s a big, powerful animal you have to treat horses severely but the opposite it true in most cases, being firm and calm is much better.

I’ve seen farriers lose their temper and hit horses in the rear but I’ve never seen anyone hit a horse in the face, that’s completely unnecessary and dangerous.

Flickersy · 25/08/2023 22:18

There's an awful lot of misogynistic language on this thread...

While her actions are morally unacceptable, it seems they do not meet the threshold in law for a criminal offence.

The death threats to her and her children are abhorrent and there's an awful lot of gleeful "she deserved it" victim blaming on that score. Two wrongs don't make a right and I'd argue death threats towards children are somewhat worse in any event.

Her points about trail by social media are pertinent in today's society where it can significantly hamper a fair trial in an actual court.

WhatAPalaverer · 25/08/2023 22:20

Surely the main learning point is that horses are massive unpredictable wild animals so should be kept on private land rather than on public roads. There’s no need to inflict them on the general public! Or race them.

Silverdogblue · 25/08/2023 22:24

Flickersy · 25/08/2023 22:18

There's an awful lot of misogynistic language on this thread...

While her actions are morally unacceptable, it seems they do not meet the threshold in law for a criminal offence.

The death threats to her and her children are abhorrent and there's an awful lot of gleeful "she deserved it" victim blaming on that score. Two wrongs don't make a right and I'd argue death threats towards children are somewhat worse in any event.

Her points about trail by social media are pertinent in today's society where it can significantly hamper a fair trial in an actual court.

Well said.

Winnading · 25/08/2023 22:29

Nemesias · 25/08/2023 21:57

It can be well fed and mistreated at the same time

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Indeed.

Covidcorvid · 25/08/2023 22:30

twistyizzy · 25/08/2023 19:04

You know that live hunting is now banned? So we now only follow a pre-laid scent by a human runner?

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Give over. You might. I’m local, that hunt hunts foxes. My brother sabs that hunt. I’ve seen videos. There’s videos of them chasing foxes, videos of them milling around a copse while they send hounds in to flush out a fox (they wouldn’t do that for a pre laid trail). Think it was that hunt where some of their hounds chased a fox across the A1 and the hounds were run over.

Covidcorvid · 25/08/2023 22:32

She should have punched herself for not tying the pony up well enough. Only herself to blame. The pony wouldn’t know why it was being punched.

iamwhatiam23 · 25/08/2023 22:33

I wonder if I would be found guilty if I kicked her and punched her in the face because i don't like what she's done? 🙄

Whiskeypowers · 25/08/2023 22:35

Flickersy · 25/08/2023 22:18

There's an awful lot of misogynistic language on this thread...

While her actions are morally unacceptable, it seems they do not meet the threshold in law for a criminal offence.

The death threats to her and her children are abhorrent and there's an awful lot of gleeful "she deserved it" victim blaming on that score. Two wrongs don't make a right and I'd argue death threats towards children are somewhat worse in any event.

Her points about trail by social media are pertinent in today's society where it can significantly hamper a fair trial in an actual court.

Another way of looking at it is if she’d been able to control her temper in the first place and not punch her horse in the head then none of this would have happened

Beezknees · 25/08/2023 22:35

LegendsBeyond · 25/08/2023 17:18

We don’t have all the evidence, so we can’t really judge. I feel for her as she was hounded in the press & on social media.

I saw the video and I'll judge her all I like, I don't need any other evidence. Horrible woman.

Clymene · 25/08/2023 22:35

Flickersy · 25/08/2023 22:18

There's an awful lot of misogynistic language on this thread...

While her actions are morally unacceptable, it seems they do not meet the threshold in law for a criminal offence.

The death threats to her and her children are abhorrent and there's an awful lot of gleeful "she deserved it" victim blaming on that score. Two wrongs don't make a right and I'd argue death threats towards children are somewhat worse in any event.

Her points about trail by social media are pertinent in today's society where it can significantly hamper a fair trial in an actual court.

The irony of someone who spends most of their time on FWR scolding women for prioritising women complaining about misogyny is not lost on me Grin

I haven't seen a single person condoning the attacks on her children. Obviously it's not their fault she's their mother. That's bad enough in itself.

Beezknees · 25/08/2023 22:38

Flickersy · 25/08/2023 22:18

There's an awful lot of misogynistic language on this thread...

While her actions are morally unacceptable, it seems they do not meet the threshold in law for a criminal offence.

The death threats to her and her children are abhorrent and there's an awful lot of gleeful "she deserved it" victim blaming on that score. Two wrongs don't make a right and I'd argue death threats towards children are somewhat worse in any event.

Her points about trail by social media are pertinent in today's society where it can significantly hamper a fair trial in an actual court.

I don't agree with death threats towards anyone. But everyone knows nowadays that anything you do will get filmed and put on social media, rightly or wrongly. She has only got herself to blame for her own actions.

Museya15 · 25/08/2023 22:39

Flickersy · 25/08/2023 22:18

There's an awful lot of misogynistic language on this thread...

While her actions are morally unacceptable, it seems they do not meet the threshold in law for a criminal offence.

The death threats to her and her children are abhorrent and there's an awful lot of gleeful "she deserved it" victim blaming on that score. Two wrongs don't make a right and I'd argue death threats towards children are somewhat worse in any event.

Her points about trail by social media are pertinent in today's society where it can significantly hamper a fair trial in an actual court.

Don't be daft, I saw the cunt beating the horse, I don't give a rats about her, don't try and palm it off love, it don't work. Shes a proper fucker!

SD1978 · 25/08/2023 23:01

She belted the feck out of the horse on the basis that it if had been ridden at the time the horses actions would have been dangerous. You can see her hitting the horse. She isn't remorseful, and obvious doesn't feel she needs to be. Loosing her job and people threatening her family is not on, but portraying herself as a woman who did absolutely nothing wrong, shows no insight, or probably care to the horses she owns.

TheFairyCaravan · 25/08/2023 23:02

Covidcorvid · 25/08/2023 22:30

Give over. You might. I’m local, that hunt hunts foxes. My brother sabs that hunt. I’ve seen videos. There’s videos of them chasing foxes, videos of them milling around a copse while they send hounds in to flush out a fox (they wouldn’t do that for a pre laid trail). Think it was that hunt where some of their hounds chased a fox across the A1 and the hounds were run over.

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The hounds from that hunt ran through a hedge, straight across a main road, in front of and into my car. We stopped, as did the dog warden who was travelling behind us, and all we got was a mouthful of abuse from the huntsmen. They gave no fucks that one of their hounds had just gone under the wheels of our car, picked itself up and hobbled off to find its mates. They were just rude and aggressive making out we were the problem for daring to be going about our business on a Saturday morning.

They definitely were not trail hunting because no one in their right mind would lay an trail across a busy, main road. They are well known for hunting foxes but everyone turns a blind eye. The dog warden told us to report it to the police but they didn’t care.

Laboriprofumi · 25/08/2023 23:13

Disgusting vile woman. Didn't even show any remorse for her despicable actions. What's wrong with this jury...

Valerie23 · 26/08/2023 00:08

Sir Ranulph Fiennes -

'Watch this video… this is a disgrace!
Corruption is rife in the UK justice system ! 😡😡😡😡'

He is referring to the vide we have seen of her hitting the pony.

crew2022 · 26/08/2023 01:12

The news said that the RSPCA never once visited the horse to check on it. They brought the prosecution using charitable funds and they didn't build an evidence base.
The jury found her not guilty. The RSPCA are weak.
They took out a prosecution without doing any protection work because they thought they had an easy win yet other cases of animal abuse they do nothing.

Clafoutie · 26/08/2023 01:13

MidnightOnceMore · 25/08/2023 18:07

I'm no animal abuse apologist, the case has however resulted in death threats which is awful.

I really worry about the whipped up hatred.

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I agree. It is totally unfair to suggest that anyone who mentions the social media hatred and abuse are therefore animal abuse apologists. We see time and again how social media campaigns can ruin people’s lives, and how mob justice thinks it is above judge and jury. That does not make what this woman did to an animal justified. Both are wrong.