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Where in the world do you think would be best to live with regards to the risks associated with climate change

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F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 12:23

So, say in a hundred years time. Where do you think might be safest to avoid the worst of the fires, floods, extreme heat etc ?

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heldinadream · 17/08/2023 12:26

Interesting question. However, in a hundred years time, if we haven't halted global temperature rises, nowhere.
Because we won't be able to grow food any more. Sorry.

EmilyBrontesGhost · 17/08/2023 12:28

The Maldives.

Miragelifeguard · 17/08/2023 12:29

On top of a hill somewhere that’s a bit chilly at the moment?

F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 12:30

EmilyBrontesGhost · 17/08/2023 12:28

The Maldives.

It's going to sink! Do you want to die??

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Miragelifeguard · 17/08/2023 12:29

On top of a hill somewhere that’s a bit chilly at the moment?

Yes that's what I'm thinking. Scotland? Scandinavia?

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BoohooWoohoo · 17/08/2023 12:31

As a pp said I think that humans will have to change their diets because of the lack of pollinators.
Maybe countries will form pacts to allow migration of the people who they deem elite during the "tricky" months.

Turquioseblue · 17/08/2023 12:33

New Zealand has been ranked as one of the best places to avoid the worst of climate change. Beautiful country!

F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 12:34

Turquioseblue · 17/08/2023 12:33

New Zealand has been ranked as one of the best places to avoid the worst of climate change. Beautiful country!

That's interesting, yes they have a cooler climate and plenty of fertile land

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heldinadream · 17/08/2023 12:36

Actually I wasn't thinking about pollinators (although this is an issue) so much as if we make the whole place too hot and seasons too unstable we just won't be able to grow plants. And whether you, personally eat plants or not, there's no food chain without them. So kaput. Everything alive kaput.
I think people don't get what a very serious pickle we're in. Top of a hill's no bloody good if there's nothing to nosh on while you're up there.

EmilyBrontesGhost · 17/08/2023 12:37

F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 12:30

It's going to sink! Do you want to die??

They've been saying the Maldives will disappear under water for DECADES and it hasn't happened.

So it's clearly a very safe place to live.

MaraScottie · 17/08/2023 12:47

I think I'll stay here in Ireland. Higher land safe from flooding, fertile soils and protected from invasions by the sea. Its as good as any place imo.

megletthesecond · 17/08/2023 12:49

Northern France?
We'll be ok here until the gulf stream gives up.......

meikyo · 17/08/2023 13:26

Scotland, unlikely to run out of water. I already live there.

FirstTimeNameChanger · 17/08/2023 13:32

My tiny, fairly low cost miners cottage in the mountains of Snowdonia will be worth an absolute fortune I'm sure ;-) upstream of a river, surrounded by water, and the hottest heat waves barely penetrate the perpetual cloud cover. We're quids in.

Assuming we can still rely on the rest of the world to provide food and entertainment that is. Otherwise we're doomed

MichaelAndEagle · 17/08/2023 13:36

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/what-the-world-will-look-like-4degc-warmer/

The map here is interesting.
Although we are not on track to see 4 degrees of warming. But still, it suggests what is probably siberia or somewhere (my geography is bad!) Will be fertile, temperate climate.

What the world will look like 4°C warmer

Will your grandchildren live in cities on Antarctica?

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/what-the-world-will-look-like-4degc-warmer

CalistoNoSolo · 17/08/2023 13:41

Anywhere a long way from the equator basically.

F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 14:43

MichaelAndEagle · 17/08/2023 13:36

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/what-the-world-will-look-like-4degc-warmer/

The map here is interesting.
Although we are not on track to see 4 degrees of warming. But still, it suggests what is probably siberia or somewhere (my geography is bad!) Will be fertile, temperate climate.

Oh yes that is an interesting map, why the really green bit in Western Africa? 🧐

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F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 12:34

That's interesting, yes they have a cooler climate and plenty of fertile land

But a 1 in 5 chance of a megaquake the likes of which could rip the south island through the middle over the next 50 years. Pretty though.

MichaelAndEagle · 17/08/2023 15:52

F0RBIDDEN · 17/08/2023 14:43

Oh yes that is an interesting map, why the really green bit in Western Africa? 🧐

According to the article

A warmer climate could even lead to reforestation in certain areas of the world, including the Sahel and Western Australia.

Its an interesting article. And the map in the article has a key to go along with it.

Of course as others have said, its not just warming we have to deal with its climate breakdown and a breakdown in the systems we depend on. Accompanied by an ecological emergency.

I do think we need to start planning for some of these consequences. Maybe the start money is buying land in Northern Canada right now...?

MichaelAndEagle · 17/08/2023 16:46

I hadn't seen that no.
I guess the map shared is really meant to show what could happen if the climate stabilises in a new normal whilst at the moment we are at the start of climate chaos.

heldinadream · 17/08/2023 16:52

I just think everyone has been underplaying the dangers forever. And even though all the talk has now ramped up, still everyone's underplaying it. Except for a few.
We are in big, big trouble, and relocating will not cut it, not for anyone. I'm so fed up with people tinkering with this as if we have time, options. We don't.
But no one - especially politicians of course - wants to face it.
Anyway today 20,000 people are evacuating from a single town in Northern Canada, Yellowknife, and it's not the only place there affected, and it is of course unprecedented, just like all of it is, unprecedented challenges every day now.

MichaelAndEagle · 17/08/2023 17:04

heldinadream · 17/08/2023 16:52

I just think everyone has been underplaying the dangers forever. And even though all the talk has now ramped up, still everyone's underplaying it. Except for a few.
We are in big, big trouble, and relocating will not cut it, not for anyone. I'm so fed up with people tinkering with this as if we have time, options. We don't.
But no one - especially politicians of course - wants to face it.
Anyway today 20,000 people are evacuating from a single town in Northern Canada, Yellowknife, and it's not the only place there affected, and it is of course unprecedented, just like all of it is, unprecedented challenges every day now.

100% agree with everything you've just said.

Even if the future does end up looking like the map, it won't happen in a calm ordered manner.
New lives in new locations won't be available for everyone.
The people who have contributed the least will be affected the most.

There will be famine, drought, refugees, it will be horrendous and still governments aren't taking it seriously.
Because no one is really willing to do what's needed and look at the unjust way we live our lives. Everything we have comes at a human cost somewhere else in the world and we don't want to really think about it.

We've already locked in a certain amount of warming. We don't yet know the full extent of unavoidable climate change.

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 17/08/2023 17:08

England. Just not the east which will be too wet. But central and up into the Pennines.

heldinadream · 17/08/2023 17:08

@MichaelAndEagle I am always relieved (irrationally really because it doesn't make much difference) when I encounter someone else who really gets it, so thank you.
I am feeling so helpless and useless.